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Florida school shooting suspect was ex-student who may have been flagged as threat
Miami Herald ^ | February 14, 2018 | Connie Ogle, Nicholas Nehamas And David Ovalle

Posted on 02/14/2018 4:00:07 PM PST by McGruff

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To: McGruff

Mental illness documentation in 3, 2, 1...


41 posted on 02/14/2018 4:49:05 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world yet loses his soul?)
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To: KMac1945

The school does have police. They must have been on break


42 posted on 02/14/2018 4:49:24 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Drew68

So once again, it is less a problem of guns and more a problem of bureaucrats failing to follow through on the mentally ill and those with violent tendencies. We need much better evaluation and monitoring of these ticking time bombs.

Even when they are clearly identified as in this case where the entire school knew he was a potential time bomb, law enforcment was unable to do a thing to stop it.

Either it is unstoppable and just a cost we have to pay for our freedom, or someone brilliant and creative is going to have to identify a way to codify these time bombs and create a process by society whereby these people are constantly monitored, if possible, through social media and email, etc.


43 posted on 02/14/2018 4:52:59 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world yet loses his soul?)
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To: AndyTheBear
Here is a pretty good clue.


44 posted on 02/14/2018 4:53:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: McGruff

Almost all of these shooters are known in their communities as real trouble. I’d be curious to see what kind of drugs this guy was taking.


45 posted on 02/14/2018 4:54:25 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Vaquero

“Why do they take these scum alive? Why?

What are you, out of your mind? You don’t think there’s any value in interrogating this kid? Try him and he might get the death penalty, that’s fine, but don’t you think they’d want to question him?


46 posted on 02/14/2018 4:55:10 PM PST by Bones75
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To: Bonemaker
The FBI had him on their radar.

They were busy with the election and all.

47 posted on 02/14/2018 4:55:51 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Paladin2

Don’t know about Dad, Mom is dead.


48 posted on 02/14/2018 4:56:00 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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I had a sinking feeling when I heard audio of the gun shots..

Bap..Bap.. split second pause, evaluate.. Bap.Bap.Bap.

This arsehole was methodical.

The school was not.


49 posted on 02/14/2018 4:56:17 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of he Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: McGruff
I have seen nothing mentioned about his parents? Are they divorced? Wealthy or on welfare? Are they citizens? Etc.

On many of the other school shooters info about the family was quickly provided.

50 posted on 02/14/2018 4:57:55 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Touche!


51 posted on 02/14/2018 4:58:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of he Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Paladin2
Another article stated that his mother had died within the last year.
52 posted on 02/14/2018 4:59:12 PM PST by CaptainK ("no collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker")
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To: Sooth2222

My thoughts exactly.


53 posted on 02/14/2018 5:00:05 PM PST by chalkfarmer
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To: McGruff

One thing we can say about this mutt is that he wasn’t an NRA member. None of these shooters ever are yet the NRA is always blamed.


54 posted on 02/14/2018 5:01:00 PM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Fawn

There is little causation or correlation between antidepressants and violence.

moreover, you do not see him anntidrpresent use among inner-city youth however, you do see rates of violence that are higher than suburban and rural populations.


55 posted on 02/14/2018 5:02:14 PM PST by Joe Dallas
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To: McGruff

de Jesus Cruz or de Jesus-Cruz?

Are we talking about a South American?


56 posted on 02/14/2018 5:03:21 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: Joe Dallas

Virtually every bastard in the past 25 years has been on a psychotropic drug


57 posted on 02/14/2018 5:04:41 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of he Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: CaptainK

FWIW,

“Fox News reports that Cruz was a member of “resistance groups” on Facebook, according to reporter Trace Gallagher.

“He’s also following resistance groups, like Syrian Resistance groups and fighter groups out of Iraq and, we should also note that a couple days ago, as far as a week ago, that he was involved in a Youtube chat room conversation about bombs or building bombs,” Gallagher said.”


58 posted on 02/14/2018 5:07:06 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: McGruff

Let’s call a spade a spade. Popular word usage is instructive. In recent decades, when there is a problem in a school, the building is secured and the local government and local media refer to the situation as “XYZ High School is in lockdown due to....” “Lockdown is a term long used for prisons where there has been an incident and all the inmates are locked into their cells until the incidents are resolved. So schools should be treated just like prisons with strict control on ingress and egress and guards on duty during hours of operation who are armed and charged with protecting students, faculty and staff and trained and authorized to use deadly force. Take some pages from the Israeli book on domestic security and take them seriously.


59 posted on 02/14/2018 5:10:17 PM PST by VietVet876
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Do we have verification that this is him?


60 posted on 02/14/2018 5:11:00 PM PST by TexasGurl24
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