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Supreme court agrees to consider internet sales taxes
NBC News ^ | Jan 12 2018, 5:55 PM ET | Pete Williams

Posted on 01/14/2018 9:15:09 AM PST by Olog-hai

The Supreme Court agreed Friday to decide if states should be able to collect taxes on internet sales, which would generate billions in revenue for local governments, but also raise the cost of online shopping for consumers.

Just over a quarter-century ago, the court ruled that a state could not force mail order catalog companies to collect sales taxes unless they had a physical presence in the state. Led by South Dakota, 36 states want the court to take another look at the issue, arguing that the 1992 decision was issued “before Amazon was even selling books out of Jeff Bezos’s garage.” Part of the court’s logic was that it would be too difficult for mail order companies to compute the widely varying tax rates among, and even within, the 50 states.

But lawyers for South Dakota said that’s no longer an issue in the digital age. “Advances in computing have made it easy for retailers to collect different states’ sales taxes,” they wrote in a court brief. […]

Congress has considered a plan to allow states to collect taxes on purchases made by their residents through out-of-state companies, but no legislation has passed.

Lawyers for the states said they’re losing nearly $34 billion a year because of the physical presence rule, though estimates from the federal Government Accountability Office said the figure is much smaller. …

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: internet; internetsalestax; judicialactivism; salestax; scotus; supremecourt
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To: Olog-hai

Internet sale tax collection is impossible.

Amazon and Walmart and Office Depot and such can easily collect state taxes on sales to sites with a specific state.

Ebay and other such sites where there are an infinite number of small vendors can not. I frequently purchase items on ebay shipped from Hong Kong and other such locations. It is not possible to collect taxes from foreign sites. This is especially true of the Etrogs vaunted tariffs


41 posted on 01/14/2018 10:15:17 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: COUNTrecount

Perhaps that’s because you are buying through the FBA system, and the seller who is delivering things to Amazon has some kind of a presence in your state?


42 posted on 01/14/2018 10:17:44 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

43 posted on 01/14/2018 10:19:41 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year! Screeeeewwwww 2017!)
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To: Jim 0216

People don’t even understand natural born citizen.
It means one is naturally a citizen because one cannot be anything else.
If one is not born here of citizen parents then other citizenships, loyalties and allegiances arise.

Children of foreign nationals and the foreign born are exactly who the founders were excluding.


44 posted on 01/14/2018 10:22:48 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Olog-hai

Good. I live in a warehouse State. I’m tired of subsidizing those who don’t.


45 posted on 01/14/2018 10:27:28 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

“Subsidizing”?

Rather than calling for the elimination of these taxes?


46 posted on 01/14/2018 10:32:24 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

There are some things, like the original understanding of “natural born”, in the Constitution that warrant debate and discussion.

But much of the Constitution is reasonably clear where the feds have clearly violated to the point where about 80% of the feds is unconstitutional.

It’s OUR job to do everything we can do to dismantle this unconstitutional 80% portion of the feds and restore our Free Constitutional Republic.


47 posted on 01/14/2018 10:37:40 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: ridesthemiles

Cities in San Diego county impose sales taxes. It definitely influenced my choice of bookstore and restaurants. The El Cajon Harley dealer imposed sales tax based on street address for a vehicle purchase.


48 posted on 01/14/2018 10:39:32 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: ridesthemiles

You can program a smartphone to charge the tax as it applies to the address. Remit the tax to the state IRS and they can distribute the correct amount to the locality.
Why should brick and mortar businesses be at a disadvantage over Jeff Besos’ Amazon. Heck, so many shops have closed I would tax Amazon double.


49 posted on 01/14/2018 10:40:59 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: Ancesthntr

So when all the shops in your neighborhood close down because they are at a disadvantage to Amazon will we even be able to afford police and fire departments?


50 posted on 01/14/2018 10:42:53 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: Jim 0216

The Kenyanesian Usurpation was devastating.

We may never recover.


51 posted on 01/14/2018 10:43:16 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Jim 0216

Agree and look how judge Roberts slid Obamacare under the rule of law by calling it something else.


52 posted on 01/14/2018 10:44:01 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Olog-hai

That will basically cause small websites to shut down because they will not have the resources to determine taxes for the thousands of tax districts in the nation.


53 posted on 01/14/2018 10:44:25 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Olog-hai

Eventually physical stores will hardly exist. Most of what we buy will involve online sales. In fact that is already the case for me except for food and sundries.

Thus they will have to allow taxation of the internet. It is just a matter of when.


54 posted on 01/14/2018 10:46:48 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Olog-hai

There seems to be quite a bit of “they must pay their fair share” (with regards to retailers and consumers) in this thread.


55 posted on 01/14/2018 10:53:17 AM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: plain talk

Based on left-wing precedent, of course. Anything free market must be decimated.


56 posted on 01/14/2018 10:59:10 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: randomhero97

I noticed that. There was a USA before the Marxism crept in, and we don’t have to perpetuate the Marxism or give credence to its perpetuation.


57 posted on 01/14/2018 11:00:12 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: ridesthemiles

Quick google search:

In 2014, there were 9,998 tax jurisdictions in the US.

https://taxfoundation.org/state-sales-tax-jurisdictions-approach-10000/


58 posted on 01/14/2018 11:00:55 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Indeed so. Or force some into the “dark web”.


59 posted on 01/14/2018 11:00:56 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: stranger and pilgrim

Yes, it is not fair for the B&M retailer. I have purchased guns locally at a higher price to simply support the local retailer. However, most purchases were online to cut out the sales tax. Ammo shipping costs versus local tax were always determined. But if the cost was close, why not take the front door delivery.


60 posted on 01/14/2018 11:04:16 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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