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1 posted on 12/28/2017 1:07:10 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

They’ll all die of old age before it’s over..............


2 posted on 12/28/2017 1:10:37 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: zeestephen

I still wish that we could have seen Joe Paterno cuffed and in prison jammies.


3 posted on 12/28/2017 1:13:50 PM PST by laweeks
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To: zeestephen

I don’t give the Washington post the time of day. Nor do I have anything to do with ped state - including watching their football - unless they’ve figured out some way to steal from my taxes.


4 posted on 12/28/2017 1:18:04 PM PST by onedoug
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To: zeestephen

I still liked the supposed Paterno fan playing violins over and making excuses for Sandusky.
Anyone seen that guy around the forum recently?


5 posted on 12/28/2017 1:19:23 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: zeestephen

Michael Mann was also exonerated by the noted Wife Swapping Studies Scholar Prezzy Spanier.


6 posted on 12/28/2017 1:21:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: zeestephen

Someone refresh my memory. Why was Joe Paterno implicated? As I recall it was because some thought he didn’t intervene or stop Sandusky from what he was doing, and Paterno allegedly knew all about it? I know Paterno was fired and discredited and his memory at Penn State erased. But I thought Paterno himself wasn’t molesting anyone, but he was somehow implicated in a cover up.

Anyone care to refresh our memories as to what crimes Paterno allegedly committed in the case?


8 posted on 12/28/2017 1:25:05 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: zeestephen

And Ray Gricar is still missing...


10 posted on 12/28/2017 1:31:38 PM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: zeestephen

Outside the Nittany Lion nation, it is hard to understand the reverence that many hold for Joe Pa Paterno. They are influenced by his coaching record and good he did for the university. They feel Paterno and his legacy was railroaded by the NCAA and Freeh, and that he never had the due process opportunity to defend himself and his family from the cover up allegations. The schism with what most of us think as reality of guilt will haunt Penn State for generations.


16 posted on 12/28/2017 1:35:19 PM PST by buckalfa (I was so much older then, but I'm younger than that now.)
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To: zeestephen

If ever a college football program deserved the death penalty, it was Penn State’s. If Penn State did not deserve the death penalty, no NCAA program ever will again.


26 posted on 12/28/2017 1:43:49 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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"Friday’s nearly four-hour-long hearing capped what had been the controversial prosecution of top Penn State administrators who investigators said had a chance to stop a serial sex predator but instead chose to protect the school and their own reputations.

At the center was Spanier, now 69, who once ranked among the nation’s most prominent and longest-serving university leaders. Prosecutors with the state Attorney General’s Office contended that he decided to bury a claim that Sandusky had been seen showering with a boy one night in a campus locker room in 2001, three years after police investigated a similar allegation about the assistant football coach.

From his ouster after Sandusky’s arrest in late 2011 through his trial this spring, Spanier insisted he was innocent and did not realize that Sandusky was a threat to children.

But as he pleaded with the judge for a sentence that would spare him from jail, Spanier apologized to the victims, the Penn State community, and others affected by his actions. “I deeply regret I didn’t intervene more forcefully,” he said, in a nod to Sandusky’s victims."

27 posted on 12/28/2017 1:44:01 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: zeestephen

What war? One of two things transpired: either they knew and helped cover it up, or they didn’t know and were grossly incompetent. Doesn’t really matter which, at this level of allowed evil misfeasance and malfeasance are the same.


32 posted on 12/28/2017 1:52:16 PM PST by discostu (let's do another bad one, cause I like it when the blood drains from Dave's face.)
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To: zeestephen

The corrupt crook in the is Tom Corbitt, the attorney general who pushed the investigation while in charge of it, and then became governor where he was automatically sat on the Penn State Board of Trustees where he became judge and jury.

His job prior to AG was in house legal counsel for Waste Management Inc. Need I say more.(They leave that out of his bio!)

Per Wiki:
Thomas Wingett Corbett Jr.[1] (born June 17, 1949) is an American politician and attorney who served as the 46th Governor of Pennsylvania from January 18, 2011 to January 20, 2015. He is a member of the Republican Party.

Born in Philadelphia, Corbett is a graduate of Lebanon Valley College and St. Mary’s University School of Law and served as a captain in the Pennsylvania Army National Guard. Corbett began his career as an assistant district attorney in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania in 1976. Corbett then joined the U.S. Department of Justice as an assistant U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Pennsylvania, serving from 1980 to 1983, upon entering private practice. In 1988 Corbett was first elected to public office as a Commissioner in the Pittsburgh suburb of Shaler, before serving as the United States Attorney for Western Pennsylvania from 1989 to 1993 in the George H.W. Bush administration.

In 1995, Corbett was appointed to fill the remainder of Ernie Preate’s term as Attorney General of Pennsylvania, until 1997. Corbett then reentered private practice and worked as the general counsel for Waste Management, Inc before being elected Attorney General of Pennsylvania in 2004. Corbett was then elected to a second term in 2008, serving a total of two non-consecutive tenures as attorney general from 1995 to 1997, and 2005 to 2011.

Corbett declared his candidacy for governor in March 2009. He won the Republican nomination and defeated Democratic nominee Dan Onorato, with 54.5% of the vote in the 2010 general election. He was sworn into office on January 18, 2011. On November 8, 2013 he announced his intention to run for a second term as the state’s chief executive. Corbett lost his bid for a second term to Democrat Tom Wolf in the November 4, 2014 general election. This election marked the first time an incumbent Governor running for re-election in Pennsylvania lost since William Bigler in 1854.

Corbett convened a grand jury in 2009 to investigate longstanding allegations of child sexual abuse by former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.[16] The grand jury uncovered evidence of criminal misconduct, and a 40-count indictment against Sandusky was issued in 2011, ultimately leading to Sandusky’s criminal conviction in 2012. Corbett has been criticized for the three year time span between the grand jury investigation and Sandusky’s indictment, and for his gubernatorial staff approving a $3 million grant to Sandusky’s Second Mile charity for children, which, according to the grand jury findings, served as a repository for potential sex-abuse victims.[17] Former FBI Director Louis Freeh’s report on the Penn State scandal did not fault Corbett’s handling of the Sandusky case.[18]


33 posted on 12/28/2017 1:52:51 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: zeestephen

Those dirty homophobes. Sandusky and his gay ring loved those little orphan boys.


37 posted on 12/28/2017 1:57:15 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: zeestephen
Disclaimer: I have zip connection to Penn State other than I was happy to see them join The Big Ten.

I'm a Paterno denier. Everything I ever read about him showed him immersed in decency. For decades he was the quintessential paragon of class. He was older than I am when he left the Penn State football program.

The only scandal ever to touch him was Sandusky's. This included decades of winning football when so many other winners were outed as liars and cheats.

It says right here that the idea of Sandusky transgressions were WAY, WAY beyond Paterno's imagination and way outside the range of his radar screen. If someone gave him proof of Sandusky's sin, Paterno would have led him to the authorities only after Sandusky was tarred and feathered.

I believe Paterno lived a life of decency, and would have been happy as a clam to have a football prodigy kid whom I could turn over to Joe Paterno.

When the only thing you know about a man is that he is honorable, it looks pretty classless and slimy to attach this kind of crime to him after he is dead or when he is too old to mount a justified defense.

45 posted on 12/28/2017 2:05:43 PM PST by stevem
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To: zeestephen
Disclaimer: I have zip connection to Penn State other than I was happy to see them join The Big Ten.

I'm a Paterno denier. Everything I ever read about him showed him immersed in decency. For decades he was the quintessential paragon of class. He was older than I am when he left the Penn State football program.

The only scandal ever to touch him was Sandusky's. This included decades of winning football when so many other winners were outed as liars and cheats.

It says right here that the idea of Sandusky transgressions were WAY, WAY beyond Paterno's imagination and way outside the range of his radar screen. If someone gave him proof of Sandusky's sin, Paterno would have led him to the authorities only after Sandusky was tarred and feathered.

I believe Paterno lived a life of decency, and would have been happy as a clam to have a football prodigy kid whom I could turn over to Joe Paterno.

When the only thing you know about a man is that he is honorable, it looks pretty classless and slimy to attach this kind of crime to him after he is dead or when he is too old to mount a justified defense.

46 posted on 12/28/2017 2:05:43 PM PST by stevem
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There have been several new developments in this case that have not been widely publicized...

(1) The NCAA agreed to distribute the entire $60 million fine paid by Penn State to organizations inside Pennsylvania. Previously, the NCAA was just going to keep the money or distribute it to anyone they pleased.

(2) The NCAA agreed to officially restore all 409 victories by Paterno.

(3) In 2016, Penn State officially held a commemorative ceremony to honor the 50th anniversary of Paterno’s first game as head coach.

(4) None of the three defendants were convicted or pleaded guilty to any felony charges. All three were convicted or pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor for child endangerment. The misdemeanor conviction against the former Penn State president is being appealed.

(5) One day before football assistant Mike McQueary spoke with Paterno about Sandusky, McQueary discussed the same subject with his own father and his father's best friend. His father's best friend testified under oath that Mike McQueary said nothing about witnessing a sexual assault, only that Sandusky and the boy were alone in the shower. The father's best friend was a local physician who is obligated under law to report any knowledge of child endangerment to authorities. The physician made no reports, and was never charged.

(6) The article does not mention that Mike McQueary, who has made conflicting claims about what he told Paterno, won a $12.3 million lawsuit against Penn State.

(7) Lawsuits filed by various Penn State Trustees have shown that Penn State paid out Sandusky-related settlements to at least two plaintiffs without making any attempt to fact check those complaints. Also, Penn State has made absolutely no attempt to recover a settlement from one plaintiff who clearly lied.

54 posted on 12/28/2017 2:27:45 PM PST by zeestephen
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It won’t be over until the truth comes out. Joe was a pedo and it was more widespread than Sandusky.


66 posted on 12/28/2017 3:22:30 PM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: zeestephen

And let’s not forget: penn state wanted to be known as the most gay friendly college.
And they trumpeted the butt pats they got for this.
http://news.psu.edu/story/147208/2012/08/27/penn-state-earns-highest-lgbt-friendly-campus-climate-score

http://news.psu.edu/story/410239/2016/05/11/rankings/penn-state-ranked-among-best-lgbt-friendly-colleges-and

http://news.psu.edu/story/480307/2017/08/31/campus-life/penn-state-recognized-among-top-25-lgbtq-friendly-schools-campus


76 posted on 12/28/2017 4:53:01 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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78 posted on 12/28/2017 4:58:44 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Arguing with the left is like trying to reason with a crazy bum hearing voices)
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90 posted on 12/29/2017 10:08:42 AM PST by dead
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