Posted on 12/24/2017 8:18:25 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
ARGE F125/Lerssen-Defence
Just weeks ago we told the story of Germany's puzzling Baden-Wurttemberg class Type 125 (F125) frigate program. Not only did we discuss the ship's odd mission and design features, but we also highlighted some of the troubling post-delivery issues with the lead ship in the class. These problems include a persistent list to starboard and the fact that the ship is dramatically overweight, which would limit its performance, increase its cost of operation, and most importantly, negatively impact the Deutsche Marine's ability to add future upgrades to the somewhat sparsely outfitted vessel.
Now the German Navy has officially declined to commission the vessel and will be returning it to Blohm+Voss shipyard in Hamberg. The decision to do so was based on a number of "software and hardware defects" according to German media reports. The noted software deficiencies are of particular importance because these destroyer-sized vessels will supposedly be operated by a crew of just 120-130 sailorsjust half that of the much smaller Bremen class frigates they replacecontinuously for months at a time. On top of that, the design's reliability is paramount as the four ships in the class are supposed to deploy far from German shores for up to two years at a time.
According to Navaltoday.com, this is the first time the German Navy has returned a ship to a shipbuilder after delivery. Baden-Wurttenberg had already missed its planned commissioning date last summer.
Complicating things further is the fact that the fourth and final F125 frigate, the Rheinland-Pfalz, was already christened last Spring. Because of the concurrent construction and testing procurement strategy, these vessels are likely to suffer from at least some of the same issues as the lead ship in the class.
Aside from this troubling situation, Germany is going through some major tribulations with its naval arm, including the embarrassing reality that the country currently has no operational submarines.
We'll keep you updated as the F125 frigate saga continues to unfold.
But that was all 40 years after WW2 so yeah, I could see them forgetting what they learned. Actually, it's about 35 years since they did the design of the Ticonderogas so probably most people have forgotten the whole TOTS fiasco by now.
Fine looking ship. At least she was until she went up against the Royal Navy.
I posted 2. The graf spee did little damage to the British navy. The Bismarck did more. Both went to the bottom. Graf Spee scuttled by the Germans to avoid what they thought was a huge contingent of Royal Navy outside the river Plate in Montevideo.
Bismarck was crippled by a British biplane swordfish torpedo which let the Fleet catch up and pummel it. It is believed it too may have be n scuttled by the crew rather than let He enemy destroy it.
Aircraft carriers won the sea wars in WW2. Germany was foolish to put all their money into battleships. WW1 thinking.
The Germans best bet would have been to take the money they spent on battleships and spend on submarines. The U-boats were much more successful in destroying merchant shipping then the German surface force.
Ships are female, most women are (ahem), heavier on one side, so accept it, its natural!
If you have to fix the problem, the solution is something like this; Secure one end of 10 yards of shoreline somewhere along the port side railing, tie an anchor or two to the shoreline, drop it overboard. Adjust the length of the shoreline until the ship rolls back toward port and even keel. I am sure this will work fairly well up to the time they get underway. Cant help them after that (Take some life preservers and remember the lessons of the Vasa!)
Yeah. Till the British and Americans got enough air support over most of the North Atlantic in 1943 or so. U-boats became a heck of a lot less effective. And a huge percentage of subs were destroyed.
True, but if the Germans would have had 30 or 40 boats in 1940 instead of 15, they would have had a significant advantage in cutting the Brits off early in the war. Don’t forget being able to read the German Navy radio codes later in the war was a big asset to our cause.
All western militaries are led by perfumed princes. They are corruptly beholden to contractors. The leadership is entirely composed of REMF types who climb over the warriors through office politics. Witness the US Navy’s joke of a littoral combat ship. Engines that breakdown.
Money will not solve it. Any extra monies will be squandered because it will be spent by the same corrupt Generals and Admirals who are more concerned with SJW issues than combat readiness.
“For the love of all that is sane, please...no one post a “Hitler Finds Out About The Bloated F125 frigate.” video.”
Oh now you’ve gone and done it!
Dont have the movie software anymore
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