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Manchin: So, it Looks Like the Tax Bill I Voted Against Will -- Um -- Help A Lot of West Virginians
Townhall.com ^ | December 22, 2017 | Guy Benson

Posted on 12/22/2017 4:27:00 PM PST by Kaslin

Of course it will, Joe.  More than 80 percent of Americans will get a tax cut next year under the new law, with nearly as many taxpayers enjoying relief through at least 2026 (and very likely beyond).  Of the plan's tiny handful of 'losers' (less than five percent), most are high-income earners living in high-tax states who itemize their deductions -- as opposed to taking the now-doubled standard deduction, as 70 percent of filers currently do (a number that will grow).  It...doesn't sound like many West Virginians fit that profile.  Manchin knew all of this, of course, but he voted with Chuck Schumer anyway, just as he's refused to help Republican Senators confirm a number of highly qualified judges nominated by President Trump.  Confronted with his tax reform vote on local radio, Manchin struggled to defend his decision:

Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., on Wednesday struggled to explain his opposition to the Republican tax overhaul, conceding in a local radio interview that it contains “some good things” that could benefit his state. “There’s some good in this bill. I acknowledge that,” Manchin said, when West Virginia radio talk show host Hoppy Kercheval asked the senator why he opposed legislation that will benefit the “vast majority” of taxpayers and businesses in the state. “The things that you mention are correct. Initially people will benefit and see some changes in their taxes,” Manchin admitted...At times, it appeared that Manchin was wrestling with his answers, trying to justify his “no” vote without being too critical, and antagonizing Trump...Trump still has high approval ratings in West Virginia, a state he won over Democrat Hillary Clinton by nearly 42 percentage points. The senator could face blowback for voting against a measure Trump championed — and that was supported by the Republicans in his state. If voters in the working class-dominated state come to embrace the tax bill, Manchin’s re-election challenges could intensify. And it’s not just him. Democratic senators from Republican-leaning states facing similar potential hurdles over their opposition include Claire McCaskill of Missouri; Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota; and Joe Donnelly of Indiana.

Manchin said that he opposed the bill because it adds to the national debt, and because the individual rate cuts weren't permanent. These are contradictory reasons. And if he was so concerned about the "temporary" tax cuts (as it stands families will receive relief every year for almost a decade), why wouldn't Manchin have voted for the bill, adamantly insisting that he'll vote to extend the tax cuts, or make them permanent, at the earliest possible opportunity? He also blamed his vote on the legislation's repeal of Obamacare's individual mandate tax, marking the latest instance in which he's defended the failing healthcare law, despite assuring West Virginia voters that he's opposed to 'the bad parts' of it.  Other faux moderates like Indiana's Joe Donnelly, and North Dakota's Heidi Heitkamp (who was forced to retract some of the false propaganda she spread about the bill) should be held to account, as well.  And while we're on the subject of vulnerable Senate Democrats, what to make of this news?

Clinton mulls role in 2018 midterms: https://t.co/O2lE0qWoK7 pic.twitter.com/i5F0wUv3HM— The Hill (@thehill) December 21, 2017


Hillary's favorable rating is at an all-time low -- even lower than Trump's -- yet she's reportedly thinking about stumping for Democrats across the country next year.  Will Missouri's Claire McCaskill, who was the very first member of Congress to endorse Hillary Clinton for president last cycle (in 2013!), welcome her old friend and ally back to the Show Me State for some campaign "help"?  Mrs. Clinton managed to attract 38 percent of the Missouri vote last November.  I'll leave you with this observation:

WaPo: "It’s remarkable that not a single Democrat in either chamber voted for this...the undeniable math is that most people are going to pay less...the sky will not fall." #taxreform https://t.co/KqNImowerf— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) December 20, 2017


"Remarkable," indeed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 115th; clairemccaskill; guybensonfag; heidiheitcamp; hillaryrottenclinton; joedonnelly; joemanchin; manchin; manchinistoast; senatedemonrats; taxes; taxreform; trumptaxcuts
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To: Kaslin

Chuck had a firm grasp on his B@lls and would not allow him to vote. The good governor of WVNeeds to have a talk with him and let him know his daddy’s democrat party no longer exists and if he changed parties he would find a better fit.


41 posted on 12/22/2017 5:17:57 PM PST by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

The Democrats Voted against a Bill that takes away a Big Tax Deduction from Blue State Millionaires and Billionaires, the Liberal Evil Rich who support Democrats. Pay for Play? LOL

Was it CT where they had to revise their Budget when some Evil Rich guy moved to Florida taking his $100,000,000 CT State Taxes with him?


42 posted on 12/22/2017 5:18:24 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Islamophobia, a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.)
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To: Kaslin

Ya dumb shyte......you should have crossed the aisle long ago to the Republican side. Your future means nothing to me. If ya lose, ya lose.


43 posted on 12/22/2017 5:19:32 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Kaslin

The two Chicago-controlled Ill-Annoy Senators are off my Christmas list! But I may send them a thank you note once I see more money in my paycheck....for the delicious irony.


44 posted on 12/22/2017 5:19:42 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Kaslin

Like many other blue state conservatives, this tax bill has me really angry. At least it appears the final bill won’t hit me as hard as the house bill would have. But reality is, our anger should really be directed at the Democrat party that refused to work with Republicans on this tax bill. It is unbelievable that not a single Democrat was willing to negotiate with Republicans to protect tax payers in their states. With a little Democrat help, we might have gotten deeper cuts to offset the elimination of deductions.


45 posted on 12/22/2017 5:20:11 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: Kickass Conservative

New Jersey


46 posted on 12/22/2017 5:20:22 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin

F-— the country, vote party line.


47 posted on 12/22/2017 5:20:23 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: vette6387
All I can say is that I was wrong to say 60-35....turns out it was 68-26! Sounds like a no-brainer to me.Of course you wouldn't count on him to do the right thing 100% of the time.
48 posted on 12/22/2017 5:21:11 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Remember: All Cultures Are Equal!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“If Manchin likes the Senate he should consider flipping.IIRC DJT carried WV by something like 60-35.”

Trump 68.5%, Hellary 26.4%.

If Trump comes in and campaigns for the Republican candidate Slow Joe should be toast.


49 posted on 12/22/2017 5:23:38 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: jonascord

Did he Vote for Obama’s failed Trillion Dollar Stimulus?

That added a Trillion to the Debt all at once while the Tax Bill (might) add $1.4 Trillion over a ten year period.

This Moron couldn’t find his A$$ with two hands and a Maglite.

BTW - Did this guy propose any Government cutbacks to solve the Debt problems? Didn’t think so.


50 posted on 12/22/2017 5:25:18 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Islamophobia, a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You reminded me of something. The guy in one of the Godfather Movies who did the right thing with a warm Bath and a Razor Blade.


51 posted on 12/22/2017 5:27:31 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Islamophobia, a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.)
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To: All

Biggest Fake Moderate in the Dem Party.

West Virginians need to pay attention and REMEMBER when they get their tax cuts in their wallets...

this chameleon lizard attempted to screw them.


52 posted on 12/22/2017 5:27:46 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Kaslin

Joe, what does Chuckie or Nancy have on You? Porno blackmail?


53 posted on 12/22/2017 5:27:52 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: hardspunned

Yes....Capito has been a real let down. I would hope someone steps up soon down there to run against Manchin.


54 posted on 12/22/2017 5:27:53 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Kaslin

It was sarcasm. Joe Manchin doesn’t vote as the WV people tell him, but as Chuck Schumer orders him. Effectively, Chuck Schumer is WV’s Senior Senator.


55 posted on 12/22/2017 5:28:20 PM PST by ETCM
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To: Lurkinanloomin

No, it wasn’t New Jersey. Maybe Delaware.

Can’t put my finger on it, but they had to call a Special Legislative Session to deal with the hole in the Budget when the guy said bye bye.

I’m waiting for all those Silicon Valley Guys to move East to Nevada and start Telecommuting. And yes, I live in Commiefornia.


56 posted on 12/22/2017 5:31:46 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Islamophobia, a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.)
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To: lodi90

The Reps need to have a good, solid candidate to oppose him. Man is the incumbent and former governor. He will not be easy to beat.


57 posted on 12/22/2017 5:34:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: Yogafist

I do understand how you feel living in a Blue State with this Tax bill. But this was a great tax bill, for corporations, small business and most Americans. It was never fair for Blue states to write off their huge State tax dollars at the expense of Red States.

Now all states are on an even plane. Maybe that Blue state you live in will lower their taxes....but of course we are talking Democrat governed states so don’t hold your breath.

One good thing even for Blue states is the economy should sizzle this next year, increasing wages and stock market and jobs.


58 posted on 12/22/2017 5:35:23 PM PST by IVAXMAN
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To: All

People keep bringing up how popular Trump is in WV, but so far, there are no Republicans running against Manchin, and time is winding down. Anyone in WV that can tell us WTH is going on there? Hard to pick up a seat without a candidate.


59 posted on 12/22/2017 5:35:57 PM PST by ETCM
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To: butlerweave
Throw the bum out

PATRICK MORRISEY FOR US SENATE!!

You can help.

60 posted on 12/22/2017 5:36:48 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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