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Even the Best Laws Cannot Save Our Society. Here’s What We Need.
The Daily Signal ^ | December 13, 2017 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 12/13/2017 12:09:48 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m approaching my 82nd birthday, and my daughter will occasionally suggest that modernity is perplexing to me because I’m from prehistoric times.

As such, it points to one of the unavoidable problems of youth—namely, the temptation to think that today’s behavioral standards have always been. Let’s look at a few of the differences between yesteryear and today.

One of those differences is the treatment of women.

There are awesome physical strength differences between men and women. To create and maintain civil relationships between the sexes is to drum into boys, starting from very young ages, that they are not to use violence against a woman for any reason.

Special respect is given women. Yesteryear even the lowest of lowdown men would not curse or use foul language to or in the presence of women.

To see a man sitting on a crowded bus or trolley car while a woman is standing used to be unthinkable. It was deemed common decency for a man to give up his seat for a woman or elderly person.

Today young people use foul language in front of—and often to—adults and teachers. It’s not just foul language. Many youngsters feel that it’s acceptable to assault teachers. Just recently, 45 Pennsylvania teachers resigned because of student violence.

Back in what my daughter calls prehistoric times, the use of foul language to an adult or teacher would have meant a smack across the face. Of course, today a parent taking such corrective action risks being reported to a local child protective service and even being arrested.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: children; moralabsolutes; morals; parents; pennsylvania; religion; teachers; values; walterwilliams; women
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To: litehaus
Nah...Men just like to “practice” making a baby....not necessarily rearing the result of such “practice.”

Nah ... Women just like to "practice" making a baby .... when the actual baby is inconvenient, they kill it.

Aren't sweeping generalizations wonderful?

21 posted on 12/13/2017 12:51:24 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: RepRivFarm

Societal corruption flows downward, not upward. Society didn’t remove the Ten Commandments from public schools or attempt to replace fathers with a government check. The blames rests with the Left, whose hundred-year jihad against all that is good and decent, against the civil society that republics require, has just about run its course.


22 posted on 12/13/2017 12:55:09 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: RepRivFarm

Very true.


23 posted on 12/13/2017 1:07:50 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Special respect is given women. Yesteryear even the lowest of lowdown men would not curse or use foul language to or in the presence of women


It came as a shock to me when I moved back to the US from Canada in the late seventies. Something happened during the five years I was gone. The-girl-next-door had adopted casual swearing in public and was completely un-selfconscious about it. When I called out a girl for her filthy mouth, she looked at me like I was crazy.

This war on masculinity thing piles insult onto injury, excoriating men for micro-aggressions while the fairer sex adopts the ways of a bar-room brawler.


24 posted on 12/13/2017 1:09:54 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Great thread, TSR. Love Walter Williams, and I am right there with him on this column. One of my favorite conservatives, along with Thomas Sowell, both of whom are coincidentally, black men)

Special respect is given women. Yesteryear even the lowest of lowdown men would not curse or use foul language to or in the presence of women. (Women are encouraged to swear like men now)

To see a man sitting on a crowded bus or trolley car while a woman is standing used to be unthinkable. It was deemed common decency for a man to give up his seat for a woman or elderly person. (I offer my seat all the time to women and elderly (and open doors too) and while nearly all elderly appreciate it, there are significant women who are outright rude and hostile. Interesting...)

Today young people use foul language in front of—and often to—adults and teachers. It’s not just foul language. Many youngsters feel that it’s acceptable to assault teachers. Just recently, 45 Pennsylvania teachers resigned because of student violence. (This is incomprehensible to me. My parents would have made my life a living hell, but...I would never, in a million years, ever done anything like that to a teacher, never mind even talking back.)

Back in what my daughter calls prehistoric times, the use of foul language to an adult or teacher would have meant a smack across the face. Of course, today a parent taking such corrective action risks being reported to a local child protective service and even being arrested. (One of the most destructive things in child-rearing is the effort by the state to remove any option by parents for corporal punishment of any kind)

The modern parental or teacher response to misbehavior is to call for “time out.” In other words, what we’ve taught miscreants of all ages is that they can impose physical pain on others and not suffer physical pain themselves. That’s an open invitation to bad behavior. (What is not expressly punished is allowed today)

It has always been considered a good idea to refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage or at least adulthood. During the sexual revolution of the 1960s, lessons of abstinence were ridiculed, considered passé, and replaced with lessons about condoms, birth control pills, and abortion. (While I was unlucky in this respect as a teenager, I understand why it used to be frowned upon)

Out-of-wedlock childbirths are no longer seen as shameful and a disgrace. As a result, the rate of illegitimate births among whites is over 30 percent, and among blacks, it’s over 70 percent. (They have special things in High Schools to encourage this...insanity.)

For over a half-century, the nation’s liberals—along with the education establishment, pseudo-intellectuals, and the courts—have waged war on traditions, customs, and moral values. (Because traditions, customs, and moral values are things not under the control of government...which must not be tolerated.)

Many in today’s generation have been counseled to believe that there are no moral absolutes. Instead, what’s moral or immoral, right or wrong, is a matter of convenience, personal opinion, or what is or is not criminal. (I went into a Unitarian "church" bake sale, and a sign on the wall being aimed at children said: "Do not allow anyone to tell you what is right and what is wrong. These are things your must decide on your own." WHAT?????????)

Society’s first line of defense is not the law but customs, traditions, and moral values. Customs, traditions, and moral values are those important thou-shalt-nots, such as thou shalt not murder, shalt not steal, shalt not lie, and shalt not cheat. They also include respect for parents, teachers, and others in authority, plus those courtesies one might read in Emily Post’s rules of etiquette. (Pfft. THAT stuff is all gone.)

These behavioral norms—mostly transmitted by example, word of mouth, and religious teachings—represent a body of wisdom distilled over the ages through experience, trial and error, and looking at what works and what doesn’t. (History is only of use to liberals if it suits their purposes. Otherwise, it is to be ignored so wheels can be re-invented and money wasted in large swaths.)

The importance of customs, traditions, and moral values as a means of regulating behavior is that people behave themselves even if nobody’s watching. (I invoked this concept twice today alone, once to frame my own shortcomings which I have regretted and tried to atone for, and once to describe to another person something here on FR)

There are not enough cops. Laws can never replace these restraints on personal conduct in producing a civilized society. At best, the police and the criminal justice system are the last desperate lines of defense for a civilized society. (Allow cops to do their work. That isn't happening now, and why cities like Chicago and Baltimore are descending into third world hellholes)

Unfortunately, customs, traditions, and moral values have been discarded without an appreciation for the role they played in creating a civilized society, and now we’re paying the price—and that includes the recent revelations regarding the treatment of women. (Women deserve special consideration, but they have been cajoled to trading that consideration away for a pig in a poke, feminism.)

25 posted on 12/13/2017 1:15:22 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: litehaus

You are more wrong, in that statement, than anyone has ever been about anything.


26 posted on 12/13/2017 1:19:58 PM PST by Architect of Avalon
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To: RepRivFarm
A proliferation of laws is what you get when you don’t have a moral and upright people.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798 John Adams

27 posted on 12/13/2017 1:25:18 PM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: robroys woman
Culture is everything.

Compare a Willie Nelson concert to a Bluegrass festival.

28 posted on 12/13/2017 1:27:36 PM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: NorthMountain
His name is Jesus of Nazareth ... and we need to return to him in repentance.

Rejected yesterday in Alabama and copious freepers this morning.

29 posted on 12/13/2017 1:30:13 PM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: RepRivFarm

“A proliferation of laws is what you get when you don’t have a moral and upright people.”


Exactly. I don’t need a law to tell me not to steal from, rape, or shoot others...and, similarly, if I was inclined to do those things then a mere law wouldn’t stop me (and Exhibit A in that case is the 2 million or so people in our jails).

Laws are a general guideline, but when you have too many it is for one of two purposes: 1) because (as you said) the people aren’t moral enough to know right from wrong; or 2) because the people at the top want to control the rest of society.


30 posted on 12/13/2017 1:35:16 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“To see a man sitting on a crowded bus or trolley car while a woman is standing used to be unthinkable.”

Pff, when women give up the right to vote and stop trying to turn our country into a socialist hellhole, then I’ll give up my seat.


31 posted on 12/13/2017 1:40:33 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Excellent post of that article.

Circa 1966, if a male student had of assaulted a female teacher he would have got away with it for about 15 seconds. The reason for the 15 seconds is at first we would not believe our eyes. Post 15 seconds he would have had his ass kicked by the other males in the class even if we did not like that particular female teacher. It would have been ugly. The cops would have shook our hands.

If the assaulter was female we would have simply restrained her. If male we would have kicked his ass big time.

You just did not do that stuff back in the 60s.


32 posted on 12/13/2017 1:59:40 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: RepRivFarm

“A moral and upright people “

Because no one is carrying anymore.


33 posted on 12/13/2017 2:04:36 PM PST by Celerity
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To: RepRivFarm

POTD!


35 posted on 12/13/2017 3:01:14 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyonse's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Isn't reaping the whirlwind FUN!!!
36 posted on 12/13/2017 3:17:16 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: loveliberty2
“America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”

--Alexis de Tocqueville


That time is NOW.

Actually; it was 40+ years ago...



37 posted on 12/13/2017 3:21:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NorthMountain

Bingo!


38 posted on 12/13/2017 3:21:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NorthMountain
Aren't sweeping generalizations wonderful?

About 3,300 future American citizens were CHOICED to death today.

Tomorrow; about 3,300 future Amer...



39 posted on 12/13/2017 3:23:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Obadiah

I needed a new tagline.


40 posted on 12/13/2017 5:24:26 PM PST by tuffydoodle (A proliferation of laws is what you get when you donÂ’t have a moral and upright people.)
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