Posted on 12/12/2017 9:47:41 PM PST by conservative98
GOP Alabama Senate Candidate Roy Moore refused to concede on Tuesday night and insisted more votes could still swing the race and save him from a stunning defeat to an underdog Democrat.
“When the vote is this close, that it’s not over,” he told supporters in Montgomery at his campaign rally shortly after Democrat Doug Jones already had been declared the winner by multiple news organizations and had given a televised victory speech.
With all precincts reporting, Jones had 49.9 percent and Moore 48.4 percent.
Moore quoted from scripture and told supporters to wait for all votes to come in – including provisional ballots and those cast by overseas military members.
“That’s what we’ve got to do, is wait on God and let this process play out,” Moore said. “But the votes are still coming in and we’re looking at that.”
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It can be, if caught early. Sometimes it isn’t.
Treatments for prostate cancer have improved over the years. I know people with stage 4 prostate cancer who are doing well 20 years after the diagnosis. If they caught it early, and it sounds like they did since he has annual physicals, then even aggressive forms are very treatable. Mo Brooks is likely to be enjoying many more years with his family.
Yes, with Moore, not quite a mensch. ;)
He clutched his cloak of religion a little too tight.
Great to hear your optimism about 2018! 59 Senate seats is what we need.
And sooner or later some of the Dems are gonna have to defect on a few votes to be able to get reelected. Once that trend starts, it’s all over for Chuck E. Cheese Schumer.
Get out a copy of "Happy Days Are Here Again."
I hope so! I would like to see 5 Senate seats.
I am feeling that a lot of GOP @$$es need to get a beat down.
Uhhh no, people didn’t show up to vote because he was a lousy candidate. All the records are online. You can clearly see the drop off in voter participation among Republicans in any level of detail you would like to see it
Or do you think the Democrats used the Russians to help rig it? Because that’s what you sound like
Well thank you. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while. :)
I didn’t understand exactly what Hannity was going for when he was trying to pin Moore down into the not dating teen girls thing.
Normalacy bias. He had no experience with this idea of older men dating younger girls. He is from New York city, and such things were likely frowned upon in his life experience. It's the differences in the culture, the time and the place, and Hannity didn't grasp that quasi-rural Alabama had different acceptable cultural mores at the time. Also the sub culture of evangelical types tend to encourage this sort of pairings because some of these people literally believe they have to do things as the people in the bible did. I've talked to evangelical types that are literally off into the fringe when it comes to getting a girl with "purity."
the good judge should have been prepared, and should have dealt in some cards of truth. MOORE CHOSE NOT TO.
I think he was just unprepared to deal with the fact that people would condemn him for dating young teenage girls. Like I said, some of these religious types believe they have a responsibility to find a young pure girl to take as a wife. After Moore got back from the war and law school, all the women his age were either taken, divorced, or undesirable. Didn't leave many options for a wife.
There is only one reason not to admit to dating teens above the age of consent and not strongly denouncing the accusation of statutory rape. Smoke, fire, and all that. At least that is what his equivocating responses lead to.
Roy's reticence at discussing his dating of teenagers left that impression, yes. He was literally caught in a situation that he didn't grasp until the trap had already sprung on him.
I don't think the two serious charges against him are true. The two accusations claim the very opposite behavior, and the second accusation has three witnesses that refute it strongly. The first accusation also doesn't make any sense, and some of the details related by the accuser have been found to be misleading or incorrect.
Some black lib was gloating about blacks electing Doug Jones today. I wrote this to him in response:
Black voters make up the vast majority of Democrat Party supporters in Alabama and are responsible for most of their election victories in that state, yet the Democrat Party of Alabama “thanks” them by slating almost entirely white candidates for office and almost never considers nominating any black candidates statewide, including white liberal Doug Jones. I’d say that says more about the party’s priorities than it does about the election results. So much for Democrat Party officials being “inclusive”.
Haven’t seen him respond yet. Hmmm.
In theology there’s something called grace. Which is needed to see and experience a good side of a mixed situation.
When Roy needed it, he found he had cast it far away. National politics can be unbelievably brutal.
Perhaps he is smart enough to know he doesn’t wasn alabama to be like Baltimore. I think Brimingham might be on it’s way
Yup, it’s true. Even in states where Blacks clearly make up a plurality or majority of their base voters, Whites still control the Dem party apparatii and often are averse to running non-Whites.
In theology there’s something called grace. Which is needed to see and experience a good side of a mixed situation.
When Roy needed it, he found he had cast it far away. National politics can be unbelievably brutal.
I do agree with Christian theology. What I sadly note is that people can look to go to heaven, but do almost nothing else. It’s pretty selfish to want one’s own soul saved and not to make an effort to share the benefits while still on earth. Roy was dour, an understandable temptation for a judge, but the cynicism made it hard to defend himself from a bogus damnation.
Grace is a good one. Humility. And from what I understand of your religion, being a sinner is par for the life course. And forgiving is as well. It appears he turned away from both his profession’s and his religion’s main tenets.
You are probably right!
Recall how Bush 41 had several member’s of his cabinet INDICTED just a week or two before the election of Bill Clinton!
AFTER THE ELECTION, the indictments were dropped! There was nothing there! The indictments were used by Clinton/Gore to cause maximum political damage, which they did. After the election, they were dropped!
NOT for the purpose of running again, but Roy Moore really should pursue each “allegation” legally!
There are important moral and political reasons and lessons as to why!
Left wing and establishment political myths about this loss must be dispelled!
Voters NEED to see how they were truly manipulated and used.
As a strategy, Roy Moore should begin with those whose “ALLEGATIONS” have already been proven false, creating more and more pressure on the remaining, and take them down like dominos!
None of these 40 year old “allegations” are likely to withstand actual legal pressure!
Then, *AFTER litigating and “legally” blowing up the validity of the near 40 year old “allegations”, Roy Moore CAN GO AFTER THE REAL MEDIA AND POLITICAL PERPS, with defamation and slander related arguments. EVEN IF HE CANNOT WIN!
There is underlying importance to do this.
While Roy Moore *may not win lawsuits against the big media and the “outside” establishment which took him down and are now mocking the Alabama voters, by going after the real anti-American perps, (*after taking each “accuser” down legally first), it could give him the COST FREE voice and positive state COVERAGE he needs to demonstrate to Alabama voters how easily DUPED they were, and how easily they were USED like the TRAILER PARK PAWNS spoken of earlier today, by the loud mouthed national UNIPARTY and national media!
I have already seen today, Alabama voters are being mocked on liberal/left wing sites across the US!
Interesting, some in the left wing are literally pointing out what we have been saying! Alabama voters were easily manipulated to take out Roy Moore over “alleged” [40 year old] sexual misconduct, and replace him with an openly pro-LGBT and anti-conservative candidate! This has been stated, and the left is laughing at conservative Alabama voters this morning for electing their own LGBT and abortion candidate!
Regardless of what one thinks about him, and not for the purposes of running again, Roy Moore needs to continue the fight against evil, and to expose and shed light on what has happened here!
*Conservative voters have proven nothing more than duped and willing pawns of the anti-God LEFT, and who are now being laughed at nationally, NEED TO KNOW, BE CALLED OUT, AND BE ABLE TO FIGHT AGAISNT THIS IN THE FUTURE!
As a fact, Trump had twice the Alabama vote as Roy Moore, which means “conservative” Alabama voters who chose not to vote, DID VOTE, TO ELEVATE EVIL AND IMMORALITY OVER THEIR FAMILIES, by allowing Jones to be elected!
- ADDITIONALLY, if Roy Moore is innocent, these “accusers” of Roy Moore *NEED to be made examples of nationally(!) so those who may be thinking of executing these types of future attacks will think twice about going along with false accusations perpetrated by an absolutely anti-God, anti-America media and press!
- If the national press and media are not proven wrong OR fought with, *they will MORE LIKELY increase this exact type of “ALLEGATION” attack strategy against future conservative candidates!
- As well, if Roy Moore is innocent, he needs fight for justice to clear his family name, for his children!
Your assessment is RIGHT ON!
Before and during the 19th century, it was not frowned upon considered immoral, or unusual for 18-19 year old young women to be married to slightly older men regardless of political views, and even across New England USA.
It was not average, but it was not unusual at all.
Life expectancy was dramatically less than today!
Today, moral boundaries have fallen, and most individuals are not spiritually or morally grounded. At the same time, children and young adults across society today are much more protected.
As a result, young adults have not had to learn to survive, or carry the true adult stress and maturity of past generations.
While there are clear moral limitations, in my opinion, it is a truly false and gross historical illiteracy which cannot grasp recent generational norms, because of current norms and bias.
Acknowledgment of sin. It doesn’t have to be what is accused, which is sometimes bogus. I don’t see anything even close to a convincing case in the accusations of sexual misconduct. Roy is about as far from playboy stuff as one can get. The worst accusers were also the fishiest. It looks gratuitous.
But the judges are also judged from heaven, and the gospels remind us that murder starts in the heart. You might not ever shoot someone but you might wish him dead on your own accounting rather than on the basis of an applicable divine dictate. Judging can easily lapse into over-judging, spoiling for a fight. The resulting momentum can make it hard to defend oneself even when harmless.
I see this problem whenever disputes arise from different eras, especially the wider the time differentials between the period in question and the present.
The past really is a "foreign country" to some. They can't grasp how things were not always as they now see them. They don't understand this concept of "Zeitgeist."
It makes it difficult to get through to them about differing cultures in the past. It makes it hard to get them to understand how we got to where we are now, from where we were before.
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