Posted on 12/09/2017 7:37:13 AM PST by billorites
Some Trump supporters are making that claim. The president can disclose warrant applications proving whether its true.
Will he or wont he?
Will President Trump order the disclosure of any warrant applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (the FISA Court) in which the Justice Department and FBI presented any information derived from the Steele dossier?
That is an explosive charge. So, at the very least, will the president order the Justice Department to provide any such FISA applications to the House Intelligence Committee preferably along with an explanation of why the presidents own appointees at the Justice Department and the FBI have been defying the committees requests for information?
Even before controversy arose over the Steele dossier, many of us were prepared to believe that there was more evidence that the Obama Justice Department and intelligence agencies had been put in the service of the Clinton campaign than that the Trump campaign had colluded in a Russian espionage operation against the 2016 election. Now, the Trump administrations most effective advocates on Capitol Hill and in the media have made a plausible circumstantial case that the Obama administration colluded with the Clinton campaign to conduct court-authorized spying on the Trump campaign.
It is speculated that this was done, fraudulently, in order to persuade the FISA Court that Trump associates, and perhaps Donald Trump himself, were in cahoots with the Kremlins operations against the United States. There is a problem with the theory, though a metaphorical elephant in the room.
That elephant is the president.
What the presidents champions fail to mention is that he is in charge of classified information including classified applications submitted to the secret FISA Court. Was candidate Trump the victim of political spying? Of a weaponization by the Obama administration of the governments intelligence-collection power, with ramifications that, thanks to the Mueller investigation, beset the Trump administration to this day? If President Trump is indeed a victim, then it just so happens that he is uniquely positioned to expose this shocking abuse of power. All he has to do is order disclosure.
Mind you, we are talking here about Donald Trump: the when attacked, never apologize, always hit back twice as hard brawler. He has never seemed like a guy who would suffer in silence if he had the power to reveal such treachery perpetrated against him. If what happened is as bad as it is being portrayed, why are the Justice Department and FBI, under Trump-appointed leadership, stonewalling Republican-led congressional committees? After Thursdays hearing, why didnt the president tell Director Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein that, by close of business Friday, either the FISA application should be in the House Intelligence Committees hands or their resignations should be on his desk?
Unmasking Redux?
Could there be fire where Congressman Jordan has detected smoke? No one who watched the Obama administration politicize intelligence and law enforcement could reject the possibility out of hand. But heres the thing: A few months back, we had similarly explosive allegations the unmasking controversy. President Trump could easily have disclosed the information we needed to assess whether there had been a shocking abuse of power or just good-faith intelligence collection and analysis. But no disclosure was ordered; and while the president accused Obamas national-security adviser of breaking the law, Trumps own national-security adviser concluded that there had been no misconduct.
The matter is worth revisiting. The identities of Americans incidentally intercepted during lawful foreign-intelligence collections are generally concealed in intelligence reports. But we learned that Obama national-security officials directed unmasking on hundreds of occasions i.e., directed that the identities of Americans, including some connected to the Trump campaign, be revealed (only in reports disseminated to intelligence agencies, not to the public).
Combined with several other irregularities, this had the makings of a real scandal. First, just as his administration was about to end, President Obama suddenly ordered wider dissemination of raw intelligence throughout the spy agencies. Second, there was a torrent of classified leaks, which made it clear that there had been spying on Trump associates. Third, a former Defense Department official, Evelyn Farkas, acknowledged bragged would be a better word that her friends in the Obama administration were quietly encouraging Congress to demand intelligence regarding Trump and Russia. Thats why you have the leaking, she chirped.
Combine this with the facts that (a) Susan Rice, Obamas national-security adviser, initially denied knowing anything about the unmasking before it was confirmed that she was involved (as our David French has detailed); and (b) hundreds of unmasking requests were made in the name of Samantha Power, Obamas U.N. ambassador, a position in which the need to know so many unmasked American identities is not apparent. Alarmingly, Power now denies that she personally made most of those requests. All together, it adds up to reasonable suspicion that there was a conspiracy to leak classified information in a manner that would damage Trump politically.
As I observed at the time, though, the unmasking was lawful under the very forgiving guidelines that apply. Whether it nonetheless amounted to an abuse of power depended on whether there was a legitimate intelligence purpose involved such as an inquiry, based on good-faith suspicion, into whether Trump associates were having nefarious contacts with operatives of the Putin regime. Had that been the case, not only would it have been appropriate for the Justice Department to investigate, but it would have been irresponsible not to do so although the leaking would still have been outrageous and worthy of prosecution.
There was, I further noted, one official who was in a position to clarify things instantly: President Trump. As the chief executive and the ultimate authority on classified information, the president had the power to disclose at least to congressional investigators, if not to the public at large which Obama officials did the unmasking, which Trump associates were unmasked, and why. Yet, although the president publicly accused Ms. Rice of committing a crime by unmasking American identities (as I said, it was not a crime), he took no action to expose the supposedly scandalous unmasking. In the meantime, as Eli Lake reported (based on accounts from two unidentified intelligence officials), Trumps national-security adviser, H.R. McMaster, determined that his predecessor, Rice, had done nothing wrong.
Im still not sold. The known facts are troubling: The leaking is egregious, the fact that unmaskings were falsely attributed to Ms. Power in government recordkeeping raises disturbing questions, and McMasters reported vouch for Ms. Rice is an intelligence leak, not a finding based on a thorough, official investigation. Nevertheless, President Trump would have been a principal victim had there been an abuse of power, and he has the authority to end all speculation by disclosing the relevant information. Since he apparently refuses to do so, one must assume that the intelligence agencies and Obama national-security officials had good reasons for taking the actions they took.
The Dossier: Tissue of Lies or Useful Source?
That brings us back, at last, to the Steele dossier. In the Trumpist portrayal, the dossier is a tissue of lies. This claim is not without foundation. Not only is the dossier a politically motivated hit job orchestrated by Trumps opponent, but Byron York notes that former FBI director James Comey, no Trump fan, has dismissively described it as salacious and unverified. In addition, some dossier allegations have been vigorously rebutted, and defamation lawsuits have been filed against Steele, Fusion GPS (the research firm that hired Steele), and the media outlets that publicized the dossier.
Still, as I have previously pointed out, the reports compiled by Steele to generate the dossier run nearly three dozen single-spaced pages and contain scores of factual claims. Trump defenders have not mounted a point-by-point refutation, just a generalized dismissal, on the rationale that some likely misinformation and many unconfirmed claims render the dossier so tainted that it should be deemed totally bogus. That is not an unreasonable position, but neither is it a showstopper. In fact, some close observers contend, with thorough analysis, that some factual assertions in the dossier have been extensively corroborated (see, e.g., Natasha Bertrand, here, and former CIA officer John Sipher, here). Moreover, Steele, who is said to have enjoyed a good reputation among U.S. intelligence agents, maintains that 70 to 90 percent of his reporting is accurate. He believes his sources are reliable and notes that, though not verified, neither has most of the information been negated.
It is not impossible that the process by which dossier claims were submitted to the FISA Court was corrupt. Having worked for the Justice Department and with the FBI for many years, though, I have my doubts. The Justice Department and FBI care deeply about their credibility with the FISA Court, and the FISA Court bristles at caricatures of it as a rubber-stamp. The government has a strong motive not to deceive the judges, and the judges to scrutinize FISA applications carefully. Consequently, I have always believed there is a second, more plausible possibility: The FBI used the dossier as a source of leads, not as a finished intelligence product that needed no further investigation. The bureau, I suspect, was able to corroborate some of the claims in the dossier, and its investigation of those claims was presented to the FISA Court.
If the FBI did this, there might have been no need for the Justice Department to refer to the dossier in a FISA application, which would have obviated the need to evaluate the dossiers credibility. The government is not required to tell a judge how it was tipped off to information unless it is relying on the tip as part of the reason the judge should believe the information.
An example: Lets say Im an FBI agent, and a confidential source tells me he believes the woman in the next apartment is laundering money for drug dealers. Based on that tip, I watch the apartment and see known drug dealers go in and out. When they leave, I see the woman go to her bank with paper bags that might contain cash. Then I subpoena her bank records and find that shes making big bank deposits. Now, if I want to ask a judge for a warrant to wiretap the womans phone, I am not required to tell the judge that a confidential source tipped me off to the womans suspicious behavior. I simply have to tell the court about enough of my investigation to establish probable cause of a money laundering crime: the meetings with drug dealers, the bags of cash, and the bank records. I gathered that information myself; it doesnt hinge on the credibility of my informant.
This is what may have happened with the dossier. If so, then it could accurately be said that the dossier, just like the confidential source in my hypothetical, was used to help the government get a FISA warrant. But it would not be true that the FBI and Justice Department fraudulently presented the dossier to the FISA Court as if it were a refined U.S. intelligence analysis; instead, they would have presented information the FBI had developed independently after being tipped off by the dossier.
There would be nothing untoward about such a process. It wouldnt matter that the dossier was political oppo research. The FBI gets leads from all sorts of shady sources; what matters is whether the information the Justice Department ultimately gives the court has been investigated adequately by the FBI.
Needless to say, if this is how it happened, the Trump administration would not want the information in the FISA application disclosed. To be sure, the information would not necessarily indicate there was any Trump-campaign collusion in Russian espionage. But it might show that (a) there were unsavory contacts between Trump associates and foreign government operatives; (b) there was enough FBI-verified information in the warrant application (which probably was not limited to the dossiers allegations) for the FISA court to find probable cause to believe one or more Trump-connected people were acting as agents of a foreign power; and (c) parts of the dossier have been corroborated, which would destroy the Trump political claim that the dossier is a tissue of lies.
President Trump is uniquely positioned to reveal how the dossier was handled and what the FISA Court was told. As Congressman Jordan urges, Trumps own FBI and Justice Department employees could easily let the Intelligence Committee examine any FISA applications derived from the dossier. Why doesnt the president just order them to comply with Congresss demand?
In the unmasking controversy, it seems Trump was more interested in politically exploiting the specter of abusive unmasking than in ordering the disclosure of what actually happened. Is the same thing true of the dossier? I dont know why the FBI and Justice Department are stonewalling the Intelligence Committee. Suffice it to say, however, that the president could order disclosure if he wanted to. He hasnt. If he persists in that posture, we have to assume he would prefer that we not know what the FBI told the FISA Court.
This article is complete crap.
McCarthy wants us to believe in the integrity of the FBI and their pursuit of the dossier, never once mentioning the name “Strzok.”
And his conclusion that Trump may not want to order the declassification of the FISA request is because it has information damaging to Trump in it, is completely at odds with the earlier part of his own article, where he contends at great length that Trump didn’t declassify documents about the unmasking, even though those would have likely defended Trump’s position that he had been illegally monitored.
Nothing’s changed. They just let one writer say one thing one time.
The primary Watergate informer, known as "deep throat", was eventually revealed to have been the FBI deputy director himself.
That’s well done :-)
The official surveillance started sometime in October when the second FISA request was approved. There were stories the Brits were spying on him between the 2 FISA requests. I haven’t seen any recent chatter about that. It wouldn’t surprise me if his security team found a few actual bugs in Tower.
The dossier was originated as a “justification” to perform all manner of what otherwise would be illegal activity by the Democrats and the deep state concerning Trump.
Agreed, it is at it's core a pro-FBI, anti-Trump article, which is the opposite of many of his other recent articles. The obvious change in tone is quite interesting.
But as to the main point of the article, yes Trump could order this information released, and that may happen. But a very good reason for that not happening now is that it's evidence in an ongoing criminal investigation that will bring down the 0bama DOJ/FBI, and that's something waiting for.
Be careful thinking there is an actual criminal investigation going on right now targeting Strzok, Mueller, or anyone at the DoJ. All that we know is that the Inspector General is conducting an audit, which is a far cry from a criminal investigation. And, the IG lead is an Obama appointee. Right now the DoJ is under onslaught from Congress, the conservative media, and Trump's twitter, but Sessions seems more interested in protecting the perceived integrity of his department, than actually finding the truth, which could require prosecuting several potential criminals under his helm.
Because maybe you didn't hear, but The Donald is taking them on. And I mean government employee unions:
Trump administration asks Supreme Court to overrule precedent helping unions
There's a LOT going on with Trump's stratergery than you know about.
He mystifies me. From all accounts he is as righteous as they come, but he acts like someone being blackmailed. He reminds me of Sergeant Schultz. Actually, FBI director Wray acts like that too.
So Andre McCarthy is saying that, if Trump doesn’t release EVERYTHING, and de mand the release of EVERYTHING, he is of “something” because Trump must know “everything “ right?
Why would it be publicized? Keep on napping Van Winkle...
You gotta wonder, with both CNN and Andrew McCarthy saying there is some truth to the dossier and its creator, Christopher Steele, vouching that 80-90 percent of the dossier is true, then why don’t we know after a year or more, what exactly is in the dossier that is true???
Is it a compilation of innocuous facts, like “yes”, the sun came up on such and such date, and that Carter Page boarded a plane, and that Trump considered a hotel in Russia???
I mean the dossier several dozen pages long, and all we got was this ugly tee shirt, and a sentence or two on Russian hookers.
I swear, it’s hard to make sense of any of it and after all this time, Trump must be waiting on something, since we now know he has always had access to anything he asked for and he still does.
I agree. But, late last night we briefly switched on CNN to see what they were saying. “Russia, Russia, Russia...” And, also, “The dossier is important, because so much what it says has turned out to be factually correct.”
LOL. What has turned out to be correct in the dossier is the publicly available info that any google search could turn up.
What the author fails to note is such direct actions by President Trump will be converted by the establishment media into interference with the Special Counsel Obstruction of Justice and a dozen other made up crimes.
President Trump has to carefully plan out and execute each step. I think he is doing so.
The author was a careerist Deep Stater and is a long standing Never Trumper who is completely unwilling to admit to the treasonous behavior of the Deep State.
Yes, the DOJ did and it is a scandal, bigger then the weaponization of the IRS, bigger than the “pay for play” going on at the State Department, bigger than the scandal on the plane load of cash, gold/silver sent as a bribe to Iran by Obama.
Agreed, it is at it’s core a pro-FBI, anti-Trump article, which is the opposite of many of his other recent articles. The obvious change in tone is quite interesting.
Never Trumper McCarthy bizarrely assumes that the same FBI folks currently stonewalling Congress will be happy to turn over incriminating documents to the White House that burn them.
In all likelihood they would stonewall the White House,too. At that point POTUS faces a major crisis. Fire them and send Marines over to seize their computers or do nothing. No win for him there.
Andy can be hit or miss....this is a miss IMO. We don’t know everything that is going on in the “deep state”, so I’m going to go by the questioning & the smirk that was on Jim Jordan’s face that he has the goods on these people.
All true. And I'm probably getting out over of my skis, but after the way Jim Jordan treated FBI Director Wray this week, I just assumed that that IG report is going to have some pretty damning stuff in it.
Evidence must be gathered and eventually action taken against people presently active in the Deep State. THAT is a delicate and touchy task. Remember Trump talking about the state of things during the campaign? He often spoke in term a FREEPERS would use. It may well be coming...
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