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Texas church gunman was shot by hero plumber Stephen Willeford...before 100mph car chase (tr)
Evening Standard (UK) ^ | November 6, 2017 | BENEDICT MOORE-BRIDGER David Gardner

Posted on 11/06/2017 4:03:31 AM PST by ETL

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Revealed: how Texas church gunman was shot by hero plumber Stephen Willeford and another passer-by before 100mph car chase

BENEDICT MOORE-BRIDGER David Gardner

Stephen Willeford, 55, grabbed his own rifle and rushed to confront Devin Kelley after being told an attack was underway by his daughter.

As he arrived outside the church he came face-to-face with Kelley.

Mr Willeford, a plumber with no military experience, shot him in the side through a gap in his body armour, forcing the killer to flee.

Mr Willeford and another passing resident, Johnnie Langedorff, then chased him at almost 100 miles per hour in a car as the wounded killer tried to make a getaway after taking a hostage.

Kelley is said to have killed 26 people – including a child aged five – when he stormed into the church on Sunday dressed in black tactical gear and armed with an assault rifle.

Freeman Martin, regional director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said: “The suspect dropped his rifle, which was a Ruger AR assault-type rifle, and fled from the church. The man then chased the gunman.”

Mr Langedorff said: “He got a little bit of a jump on us. So we were doing about 95 miles per hour, going around traffic and everything.

“He just lost control and that’s whenever I put the vehicle in park. The other gentleman jumped out and had his rifle drawn on him and he didn’t move after that.”

Kelley was found a short distance away in his crashed vehicle, dead from a bullet wound. He had several more guns in his car, but the hostage was unhurt.

Police are still trying to establish whether Kelley died from Mr Willeford’s shot, or if he committed suicide.

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Speaking at a news conference in Japan, Mr Trump said: “Fortunately somebody else had a gun that was shooting in the opposite direction, otherwise it would have been – as bad as it was – it would have been much worse.”

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He [mass murderer Devin Kelley] served in logistics readiness at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico, and was jailed for one year in 2012 on two counts alleging assault on his wife Danielle Shields and their child.

In 2014, he was kicked out of the military.

Old school friends described Kelley, who lived in nearby New Braunfels, Texas, as a “creep” who made no secret of his anti-religious views.

Nina Rose Nava, who went to school with Kelley, said: “He was always talking about how people who believe in God were stupid and trying to preach his atheism.’

On Kelley’s Facebook page, he appeared to have a fascination with guns. He had recently shared a photo of an AR-15 style gun with the caption: ‘She’s a bad b***h.”

Kelley’s mother-in-law, Michelle Shields, is understood to be a parishioner at the First Baptist Church and was friends on social media with First Baptist Pastor Frank Pomeroy and his wife.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; devinpatrickkelley; heroes; johnnielangedorff; stephenwilleford; texas; txarmedcitizen
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To: RummyChick
But if killer escaped. Was found an 20 minutes later calmly eating a big mac..plumber could not go in and just execute him in McDonald's...even in Texas. Circumstances matter

Where did I say or imply in my post 68 anything of the sort? I said that Willeford (the plumber) shot Kelley once outside the church, apparently as the rampage was still going on. He later held him at gunpoint, but didn't fire again. The coward Kelley then, according to someone's comment here, reloaded before shooting himself. I knew about the shooting himself part, but not that he had (supposedly) reloaded following the chase and subsequent crash. If that is indeed the case, that he reloaded, hero Willeford displayed incredible control not to shoot him again at that point.

81 posted on 11/06/2017 5:34:52 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Re: Police are still trying to establish whether Kelley died from Mr Willeford’s shot, or if he committed suicide.

Maybe they should ask the hostage.

Willeford reportedly shot him once in the side while outside the church. Would the mass murderer have shot himself in the side in a suicide attempt?

82 posted on 11/06/2017 5:38:27 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

Personal connection to someone in the church.

What I thought it would be.


83 posted on 11/06/2017 5:42:25 AM PST by redgolum
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To: BroJoeK

“I never saw it before, great word, should be more widely bruited.”

That is one for the tally book of every American.


84 posted on 11/06/2017 5:43:31 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: ETL

You did not. I was just showing compare and contrast about acceptabilty for those that believe in texas you can just shoot a killer with no limitation.


85 posted on 11/06/2017 5:44:26 AM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: redgolum
Personal connection to someone in the church. What I thought it would be.

“The Texas church madman was a disgraced Air Force veteran who was court-marshaled in 2012 after assaulting his wife and child, reports said.

Devin Patrick Kelley, who joined the military in 2010,was given a dishonorable discharge and slapped with 12 months of confinement in 2014 after his court marshaling, CBS News reported.

The military said Sunday that Kelly served in Logistics Readiness at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico from 2010 until his discharge.

The Pentagon also confirmed that Kelley was an airman “at one point,” but did not provide additional details.

Kelly was married and lived in a wooded area on the rural, western outskirts of New Braunfels, north of San Antonio.

His mother-in-law has a post-office box in Sutherland Springs, where he launched his massacre, about 50 minutes away.”

http://nypost.com/2017/11/05/texas-church-shooter-was-a-dishonorably-discharged-air-force-veteran/
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"Kelley’s mother-in-law, Michelle Shields, is understood to be a parishioner at the First Baptist Church and was friends on social media with First Baptist Pastor Frank Pomeroy and his wife."

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/revealed-how-texas-church-gunman-was-shot-dead-by-hero-plumber-stephen-willeford-a3677181.html

86 posted on 11/06/2017 5:44:46 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

That’s two positive reports from British publications that appear to applaud a non-police resident’s use of a weapon to stop a murderer. I’m pleasantly surprised!


87 posted on 11/06/2017 5:47:15 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: RummyChick
I was just showing compare and contrast about acceptability for those that believe in Texas you can just shoot a killer with no limitation.

I don't think it would be legal anywhere in the US to shoot someone who isn't an immediate danger to you or someone else. Hero Willeford shot an active shooter at the scene of the crime.

And if it was true that Kelley had reloaded following the car crash, IMO, he (Willeford) would have had the right to shoot him again at that point.

88 posted on 11/06/2017 5:52:44 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: familyop
That’s two positive reports from British publications that appear to applaud a non-police resident’s use of a weapon to stop a murderer. I’m pleasantly surprised!

Yes, incredible isn't it.

BTW, sorry for not pinging you to this thread. Meant to, but forgot.

And thanks again for your pinging me on the hero's ID early this morning. That is what prompted me to post this thread.

89 posted on 11/06/2017 5:56:13 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: wastedyears
Let’s see how many media and politicians completely leave out the *fact* that the mass murderer was shot by a good guy with a gun.

How many? Probably all of them.

90 posted on 11/06/2017 5:59:52 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ETL

This is the first we’ve heard about a hostage.

Two good men sent this monster straight to hell before he could hurt anyone else.


91 posted on 11/06/2017 6:06:45 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: ETL

“after his court marshaling, CBS News reported.”

It’s Court Martial.

L


92 posted on 11/06/2017 6:07:05 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: ETL

You get alot of information bouncing around after a situation like this. Everyone posts bits and pieces of stories you hear.
It’s possible that the reports of a hostage come from callers witnessing the chase.
They see a pickup truck with an armed man in the passenger seat and assume its a guy with a hostage , but it turns out it’s the good-guy chasing the shooter.


93 posted on 11/06/2017 6:08:53 AM PST by VicVanleeuwenhoek
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To: Lisbon1940
I thought posts 3 and 4 were one, Similar facial shape. Sorry.

No problem, FRiend. Thanks for clarifying.

94 posted on 11/06/2017 6:10:02 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

Here’s another one. I need to go for a little while.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4851812/texas-church-shooting-devin-kelley-facebook-atheism/


95 posted on 11/06/2017 6:10:05 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Lurker

Lol!

Did you catch my post 30?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3602093/posts?page=30#30


96 posted on 11/06/2017 6:12:30 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: VicVanleeuwenhoek

That’s true. But if the report was recent, it probably is accurate, as I’m sure they would have sorted that out by now.


97 posted on 11/06/2017 6:14:42 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL
...Speaking at a news conference in Japan, Mr Trump said: ...

That would be President Trump to you, you Limey basta*d
98 posted on 11/06/2017 6:15:10 AM PST by Spruce
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To: ETL

A plumber???? A toxic-masculinity, white-privelege deplorable?!


99 posted on 11/06/2017 6:16:25 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Flick Lives

Wow. Excellent marksmanship.

Thank you, Mr. Willeford.


100 posted on 11/06/2017 6:17:33 AM PST by madison10
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