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Texas church shooting leaves many dead
BBC ^ | 11/05/17 | BBC

Posted on 11/05/2017 12:08:31 PM PST by Simon Green

At least 27 people have died after a gunman opened fire at a church in Texas during Sunday services.

The attack happened at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs in Wilson County.

A police commissioner at the scene confirmed that at least 27 people had died. Several others are reported to be injured.

The San Antonio FBI branch said its agents had been deployed, and there was no indication of the gunman's motive.

The FBI also said that while only one shooter was reported, it was looking into other possibilities.

Local ABC affiliate KSAT 12 reported the gunman entered the church at around 11:30 local time (17:30 GMT). It also said he had been killed in the aftermath.

Photos and video from the scene showed the area taped off by local law enforcement.

A number of helicopters have arrived to transport the wounded, KSAT 12 reporter Max Massey said.

Texas governor Greg Abbott said: "Our prayers are with all who were harmed by this evil act. Our thanks to law enforcement for their response."

He said more details would be released by the Texas Department of Public Safety shortly.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: churchshooting; devinpatrickkelley; sanantonio; shooting; sutherlandsprings
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To: JudyinCanada
https://www.facebook.com/joann.ward.12?hc_ref=ARQLYGAMEmuqOXEUAD8xJxsMqsIY_eWAEL-dwDyg3IPHtAciR9PjAELba6c-SFUEX_0&pnref=story As far as I have seen, I think this is it. ****************************************************

Yep, this is it alright. Look at her review of the church.

First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs, Texas — 5 star about 5 months ago

My children attend with my in laws and absolutely love it there. They feel loved, welcome and always come home smiling and sharing what they learned that day.

161 posted on 11/05/2017 12:56:50 PM PST by kara37
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To: Mom MD

Good for you. When I worked and carried a lot if money I did, but I am from the south we do this stuff down here, I never worry i know the men around have guns. Its just what they do protect us...I am surprised so many don’t carry in church.


162 posted on 11/05/2017 12:57:08 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Thank you Free Republic. Thank you President Donald J Trump, Greatest election Ever.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“Carry is illegal in churches, although only prosecutable if posted. Sounds more like Illinois than a supposed red state. So yes,Texas gun laws SUCK on ice.”

NOT TRUE. I am in Texas, go to a large church and the pastor brags that even the choir is armed. IT IS NOT ILLEGAL IN TEXAS TO CARRY IN CHURCH.


163 posted on 11/05/2017 12:57:44 PM PST by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")
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To: WXRGina

Keep reading and count.


164 posted on 11/05/2017 12:57:59 PM PST by exnavy (America: love it or leave it.)
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To: Simon Green

Why didn’t anyone shoot back?


165 posted on 11/05/2017 12:58:38 PM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Daffynition

During the freeway shooting spree around Los Angeles, there were bumper stickers that said, “Honk if you’re reloading.”


166 posted on 11/05/2017 12:59:43 PM PST by sparklite2 (-)
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To: RKBA Democrat
See my post 141.

A church does not need to take any action if it wishes to allow handgun license holders to conceal carry or open carry in church buildings.

167 posted on 11/05/2017 1:00:01 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, Hollywood, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: Simon Green

Church stats published earlier. All white, maybe 1% NativeAmerican, 0% black.


168 posted on 11/05/2017 1:00:21 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Parley Baer

All the media sources are backing hard away from that number now. One is too many, but I suspect the actual number of dead is way below the initial reports


169 posted on 11/05/2017 1:00:30 PM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: relee

thus downed person is not person Ward per congressperson .... oh boy ... prayers congressperson had untrue info


170 posted on 11/05/2017 1:01:23 PM PST by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream ..)
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To: Right Wing Assault

So, was there a sign as described by the law?


171 posted on 11/05/2017 1:02:05 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: exnavy

Don’t say anything about and do it anyway. There are plenty of goof smsll 9MM guns today. None need know until danger’s hour tolls. In Baptist chrcrd yhe Jimmah Carter Bsptistd will nevrr not rsise hugh stink evrn if it is legsl. Just carry and keep quiet.


172 posted on 11/05/2017 1:02:44 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Oh man that was so bad my old stomping grounds


173 posted on 11/05/2017 1:02:47 PM PST by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: cableguymn

Wikipedia says 81% white, but that includes some Hispanic.


174 posted on 11/05/2017 1:02:57 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: robowombat

Are you keyboard challenged?


175 posted on 11/05/2017 1:03:38 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: no-to-illegals
prayers congressperson had untrue info

Well, the Congressman is a Democrat ...

176 posted on 11/05/2017 1:03:44 PM PST by relee (Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: MPJackal

I’m a member of a large evangelical church here in SE Virginia. We’re not a megachurch by any stretch, but we have more than 400 people attending each of the Sunday morning services. A few years ago, our senior pastor and the church board made the difficult decision to arm our security team. I believe it was—and is—the right choice. All have been fully trained and have concealed carry permits. About half are current or former law enforcement officers.

We don’t advertise the fact that our security team is armed, but if evil elects to visit our church, we will fight back.


177 posted on 11/05/2017 1:03:47 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Simon Green

This is horrible. Sending prayers.


178 posted on 11/05/2017 1:03:58 PM PST by Southnsoul
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To: AzSteven

Less than and yes ... one is one too many


179 posted on 11/05/2017 1:05:05 PM PST by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream ..)
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To: Simon Green; All
Purported perp, Chris Ward:
180 posted on 11/05/2017 1:05:08 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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