Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ted Cruz warns of ‘profound damage’ to U.S. economy if Trump kills NAFTA
The Toronto Star ^ | 10/31/2017 | Daniel Dale

Posted on 10/31/2017 6:01:46 PM PDT by Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

WASHINGTON—Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz warned Tuesday that the United States would face “massive economic costs” if President Donald Trump killed the North American Free Trade Agreement — but that Trump might go ahead and make that decision.

Cruz said “NAFTA has created millions of jobs across the United States,” and he said “Texans believe in international trade.” He expressed concern that Trump, whom he generally supports, would seek to use the ongoing NAFTA renegotiation to reduce trade and erect protectionist barriers rather than to expand trade.

Reducing access to the Canadian and Mexican markets, Cruz said, would “do profound damage to the American economy and to Texas in particular.”

“Which direction will the administration go? I will tell you candidly: I don’t know,” Cruz said at the pro-NAFTA U.S. Chamber of Commerce on Tuesday. His comments highlight the uncertainty surrounding Donald Trump’s intentions.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestar.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: canada; cruz; cruznafta; cubanadian; globalism; goldmansachs; lyingted; mexico; nafta; tedcruz; texas; trump; trumpnafta
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 241-249 next last
To: Jim 0216

Gezuz...I’m not going to argue about the free trade con game for the millionth time. If ya want someone you can sucker with your globalist bull sh*t, peddle it elsewhere.

Thankfully Trump is president now and we can turn these pathetic, punitive trade laws around. Look for big changes to your free trade con game in the future. If they want to trade, no problem, but they pay their fair share to play. Bet the rent.


161 posted on 10/31/2017 9:15:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: Jim 0216

Are you invested in any Communist Chinese based companies?


162 posted on 10/31/2017 9:19:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: weston

He’s not very good at the Constitution either.
He thinks children born in foreign countries to a foreign national parent is a natural born citizen eligible to be President.
That would make Anwar Al-Alawki’s kids born in Yemen eligible, and not coincidently, himself as well.


163 posted on 10/31/2017 9:31:02 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

Then don’t. Nobody’s forcing you. But quit complaining when I answer your your replies to me. In the meantime, you and your buddies cannot put together any kind of cogent argument for protective tariffs and against free trade. All you can do is whine and snivel. Then get off my channel.


164 posted on 10/31/2017 9:50:57 PM PDT by Jim W N
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 161 | View Replies]

To: Jim 0216

Are you invested in any Communist Chinese based companies?


165 posted on 10/31/2017 10:07:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 164 | View Replies]

To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

The real Ted Cruz has just showed himself!


166 posted on 10/31/2017 10:14:22 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

I seem to recall his stance on international business... NAFTA, H-1B Visas are the main reasons he was not the GOP nominee.

At least those were the deal-breaker issues for me long before Trump had announced, I could not support Cruz because of his stance on this stuff.

Had thought perhaps he would learn...guess pillow talk from globalist wife is too strong...


167 posted on 10/31/2017 10:14:38 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim 0216

Let me clarify that. Are you invested in any companies located in Communist China? If you’d rather not say, that’s fine too.


168 posted on 10/31/2017 10:14:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 164 | View Replies]

To: Jim 0216

It isn’t free trade, it is managed trade.


169 posted on 10/31/2017 10:15:08 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: wideminded
Yes, trade deficits are meaningless, since goods trade for goods.

The issue with these globalist trade deals is U.S. sovereignty

170 posted on 10/31/2017 10:19:42 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: Jim 0216

But neither nation can be involved, not just the U.S..


171 posted on 10/31/2017 10:21:47 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

For NAFTA’s unhappy 20th anniversary, Public Citizen has published a report that details the wreckage. Not only did promises made by NAFTA’s proponents not materialize, but many results are exactly the opposite.

Such outcomes include a staggering $181 billion U.S. trade deficit with NAFTA partners Mexico and Canada and the related loss of 1 million net U.S. jobs under NAFTA, growing income inequality, displacement of more than one million Mexican campesino farmers and a doubling of desperate immigration from Mexico, and more than $360 million paid to corporations after “investor-state” tribunal attacks on, and rollbacks of, domestic public interest policies.

The study makes for a blood-boiling read. For instance, we track the specific promises made by U.S. corporations like GE, Chrysler and Caterpillar to create specific numbers of American jobs if NAFTA was approved, and reveal government data showing that instead, they fired U.S. workers and moved operations to Mexico.

The data also show how post-NAFTA trade and investment trends have contributed to middle-class pay cuts, which in turn contributed to growing income inequality; how since NAFTA, U.S. trade deficit growth with Mexico and Canada has been 45 percent higher than with countries not party to a U.S. Free Trade Agreement, and how U.S. manufacturing exports to Canada and Mexico have grown at less than half the pre-NAFTA rate.

NAFTA’s actual outcomes prove how damaging this type of agreement is for most people, demonstrating why NAFTA should be renegotiated or terminated. The evidence makes clear that we cannot have any more such deals that include job-offshoring incentives, requirements we import food that doesn’t meet our safety standards or new rights for firms to get taxpayer compensation before foreign tribunals for laws they don’t like.

Given NAFTA’s record of damage, it is equal parts disgusting and infuriating that now President Barack Obama has joined the corporate Pinocchios who lied about NAFTA, recycling similar claims to try to sell the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which is NAFTA on steroids.

As Americans have lived with NAFTA’s effects since its Jan. 1, 1994, start, public opinion has shifted dramatically, from a narrow divide during the 1993 NAFTA debate to overwhelming opposition today. A 2012 Angus Reid Public Opinion poll found that 53 percent of Americans believe the U.S. should “do whatever is necessary” to “renegotiate” or “leave” NAFTA, while only 15 percent believe the U.S. should “continue to be a member of NAFTA.” That opposition cuts across party lines, class divisions and education levels, perhaps explaining the growing controversy over the proposed deepening and expansion of the NAFTA model through the TPP.

This transpartisan public opposition to NAFTA-style pacts is what underlies the growing transpartisan opposition in Congress to President Obama’s request that Congress delegate away its constitutional authorities through Fast Track trade authority. Were it not for Fast Track’s creation of a legislative luge run through Congress for NAFTA, the deal would not have been implemented.

Fast Track was an extreme scheme cooked up by Richard Nixon that was only ever used 16 times, including for NAFTA. It empowered a president to sign a trade agreement before Congress voted on it with a guarantee that the executive branch can write legislation not subject to committee markup that would implement the pact and alter wide swaths of existing U.S. law. Fast Track guaranteed House and Senate votes on this bill within 90 days, with all floor amendments forbidden and a maximum of 20 hours of debate.

In the 19 years since NAFTA and the agreement establishing the World Trade Organization were passed under Fast Track, Congress has woken up to the fact that these pacts rewrite wide swaths of non-trade laws, and Democratic and GOP presidents have had a hard time convincing Congress to put on the Fast Track handcuffs. Fast Track has only been in effect for five years (2002-2007) since then. The same coalition of chronic U.S.-job-offshorers, agribusiness monopolists, Big Pharma, oil and gas giants and the think tanks they fund are gearing up a big push to revive Fast Track because they know that is the only way the TPP could get through Congress.

Among the findings of the NAFTA at 20 study:

Rather than creating in any year the net 200,000 jobs per year promised by former President Bill Clinton on the basis of Peterson Institute for International Economics projections, job loss from NAFTA began rapidly:

• American manufacturing jobs were lost as U.S. firms used NAFTA’s new foreign investor privileges to relocate production to Mexico to take advantage of that country’s lower wages and weaker environmental standards. U.S. job erosion worsened as a new flood of NAFTA imports swamped gains in exports, creating a massive new trade deficit that equated to an estimated net loss of one million U.S. jobs by 2004. A small pre-NAFTA U.S. trade surplus of2.5 billion with Mexico turned into a huge new deficit, and a pre-NAFTA29.1 billion deficit with Canada exploded. The NAFTA-spurred job loss has not abated during NAFTA’s second decade, as the burgeoning post-NAFTA U.S. trade deficit with Canada and Mexico has not declined.

• More than 845,000 U.S. workers in the manufacturing sector have been certified for Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) since NAFTA because they lost their jobs due to imports from Canada and Mexico or the relocation of factories to those countries. The TAA program is quite narrow, covering only a subset of jobs lost at manufacturing facilities, and is difficult to qualify for. Thus, the NAFTA TAA numbers significantly undercount NAFTA job loss.

NAFTA contributed to downward pressure on U.S. wages and growing income inequality. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, two out of every three displaced manufacturing workers who were rehired in 2012 experienced wage reductions, most of more than 20 percent. As increasing numbers of workers displaced from manufacturing jobs joined the glut of workers competing for non-offshorable, low-skill jobs in sectors such as hospitality and food service, real wages have also fallen in these sectors since NAFTA. The resulting downward pressure on wages has fueled recent growth in income inequality.

Scores of NAFTA countries’ environmental and health laws have been challenged in foreign tribunals through the controversial “investor-state” dispute resolution system. Foreign corporations have extracted more than360 million in compensation from NAFTA governments via investor-state tribunal challenges against toxics bans, land-use rules, water and forestry policies and more. More than12.4 billion is currently pending in such claims, including challenges of medicine patent policies, a fracking moratorium and a renewable energy program.

The average annual U.S. agricultural trade deficit with Mexico and Canada under NAFTA stands at $800 million, more than twice the pre-NAFTA level. U.S. beef imports from Mexico and Canada, for example, have risen 130 percent since NAFTA. This stands in stark contrast to the promises made to U.S. farmers and ranchers that NAFTA would allow them to export their way to newfound wealth and farm income stability. Despite an overall 188 percent rise in food imports from Canada and Mexico under NAFTA, the average nominal price of food in the United States has jumped 65 percent since NAFTA went into effect.

The reductions in consumer goods prices that have materialized have not been sufficient to offset the losses to wages under NAFTA. U.S. workers without college degrees (63 percent of the workforce) likely have lost a net amount equal to 12.2 percent of their wages under NAFTA-style trade even after accounting for gains from cheaper goods. This net loss means a loss of more than3,300 per year for a worker earning the median annual wage of27,500.

The export of subsidized U.S. corn did increase under NAFTA, destroying the livelihoods of more than one million Mexican campesino farmers and about 1.4 million additional Mexican workers whose livelihoods depended on agriculture.

• The desperate migration of those displaced from Mexico’s rural economy pushed down wages in Mexico’s border maquiladora factory zone and contributed to a doubling of Mexican immigration to the United States following NAFTA’s implementation.

• Though the price paid to Mexican farmers for corn plummeted after NAFTA, the deregulated retail price of tortillas - Mexico’s staple food - shot up 279 percent in the pact’s first 10 years.

Facing displacement, rising prices and stagnant wages, more than half the Mexican population, and more than 60 percent of the rural population, still falls below the poverty line, despite the promises that NAFTA would bring broad prosperity to Mexicans.

• Real wages in Mexico have fallen significantly below pre-NAFTA levels as price increases for basic consumer goods have exceeded wage increases. A minimum wage earner in Mexico today can buy 38 percent fewer consumer goods than on the day that NAFTA took effect. Despite promises that NAFTA would benefit Mexican consumers by granting access to cheaper imported products, the cost of basic consumer goods in Mexico has risen to seven times the pre-NAFTA level, while the minimum wage stands at only four times the pre-NAFTA level.

Despite the overwhelming evidence of NAFTA’s failure, the Obama administration has made it a priority for this year to sign the TPP, a sweeping pact with 11 Pacific Rim nations premised on expanding the NAFTA model. Past efforts to expand NAFTA throughout Latin America via a Free Trade Area of the Americas and to Asia via an Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Free Trade Agreement failed as the major economies in each region sought to avoid the damage they observed NAFTA causing within the United States and Mexico.

Given NAFTA’s devastating outcomes, few of the corporations or think tanks that sold it as a boon for all of us in the 1990s like to talk about it, but the reality is that their promises failed as millions of people were severely harmed.

Now the same interests that dished out lies to sell NAFTA are at it again to push the TPP, but the difference is that 20 years of the NAFTA experience has turned Americans against these sorts of deals.

If there is any upside to NAFTA, let it be that its 20 years of damage helps to build the activism outside, and the sense of political liability inside, Congress that are needed to ensure that Fast Track is permanently dust-binned and the NAFTA model is not expanded through TPP.


172 posted on 10/31/2017 10:21:52 PM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies]

To: Jim 0216
But these aren't free trade deals.

Even Murray Rothbard opposed NAFTA.

173 posted on 10/31/2017 10:22:56 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 150 | View Replies]

To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

CRUZ is WRONG!


174 posted on 10/31/2017 10:51:44 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

Looks like Ted couldn’t just move on and support the agenda that elected a President....if Trump does it, he knows what the effects are going to be and has a plan to make things better - almost non-existent in politicians until he came along....


175 posted on 11/01/2017 2:59:12 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

The fact that canadians like the toronto star and ted cruz oppose changes to NAFTA validate the Trump Mission. #MAGA.


176 posted on 11/01/2017 3:42:01 AM PDT by wizwor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

You lost, Ted—Get over it.


177 posted on 11/01/2017 4:00:36 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

...Cruz said, would “do profound damage to the American economy and to Texas in particular.”
*****************************************
So, Ted, why don’t you give us some details to back that up?

...I’m a Texan and like Cruz, but this seems like some union lobby folks have gotten to him.

Why not permit the USA negotiate for a better deal?


178 posted on 11/01/2017 4:29:51 AM PDT by octex
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

Ted... Honey... if we cared about your opinion on NAFTA you’d be going to work in the Oval Office every morning, and your title wouldn’t be “Senator”. Neither of those things is true, so SU and do your job.


179 posted on 11/01/2017 4:38:05 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (A person's greatest strength is his greatest weakness.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative

Militarily? What US alliance are they part of?


180 posted on 11/01/2017 4:48:02 AM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 241-249 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson