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Ted Cruz warns of ‘profound damage’ to U.S. economy if Trump kills NAFTA
The Toronto Star ^ | 10/31/2017 | Daniel Dale

Posted on 10/31/2017 6:01:46 PM PDT by Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

WASHINGTON—Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz warned Tuesday that the United States would face “massive economic costs” if President Donald Trump killed the North American Free Trade Agreement — but that Trump might go ahead and make that decision.

Cruz said “NAFTA has created millions of jobs across the United States,” and he said “Texans believe in international trade.” He expressed concern that Trump, whom he generally supports, would seek to use the ongoing NAFTA renegotiation to reduce trade and erect protectionist barriers rather than to expand trade.

Reducing access to the Canadian and Mexican markets, Cruz said, would “do profound damage to the American economy and to Texas in particular.”

“Which direction will the administration go? I will tell you candidly: I don’t know,” Cruz said at the pro-NAFTA U.S. Chamber of Commerce on Tuesday. His comments highlight the uncertainty surrounding Donald Trump’s intentions.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestar.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: canada; cruz; cruznafta; cubanadian; globalism; goldmansachs; lyingted; mexico; nafta; tedcruz; texas; trump; trumpnafta
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I’ll have to dig up the article about this Mexico misnomer about the reason they left is because of employee costs when exactly the opposite was true.

The article reflected that the employee cost per car to a company manufacturing in Mexico was a 4-500$ save per car. The executive went on to say that financially if moving your operations to Mexico based on that measure alone it wasn’t fiscally feasible to do this and the company would not move.

HOWEVER the 50+ unilateral trade agreements with other nations for material to manufacture was saving car manufacturers 2-3000$ per car. That means the Mexican Government has adopted free trade within their platform so that the free flow of tarrif free goods under agreements with these countries goes unabetted.

We used to have a nation like that until Government got in the way


101 posted on 10/31/2017 7:17:07 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297
Makes no difference to me.

Good, now scoot.

102 posted on 10/31/2017 7:17:09 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cicero

Ted is the embodiment of Orthodox Conservatism.

And Orthodox Conservatism, while usually meaning well, has lost its way. As have its followers.

Conservatism without Nationalism is like Faith Without Works.

Of little value to the world, or its adherents.


103 posted on 10/31/2017 7:17:30 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
100%...The U.S. has no need for NAFTA. Unless one is dumb enough to want their trade totally manipulated and some of that manipulation comes in the form unseen players. That's never ever good.☺

The U.S. is an independent country and we will return to trading as an independent country.

104 posted on 10/31/2017 7:18:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
100%...The U.S. has no need for NAFTA. Unless one is dumb enough to want their trade totally manipulated and some of that manipulation comes in the form unseen players. That's never ever good.☺

The U.S. is an independent country and we will return to trading as an independent country.

105 posted on 10/31/2017 7:18:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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106 posted on 10/31/2017 7:18:08 PM PDT by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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To: central_va

Why do tariffs work? You think the govt. is gonna pass the revenue on to you? Tariffs limit our ability to export things we produce.


107 posted on 10/31/2017 7:19:08 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: Jarhead9297
The article reflected that the employee cost per car to a company manufacturing in Mexico was a 4-500$ save per car. The executive went on to say that financially if moving your operations to Mexico based on that measure alone it wasn’t fiscally feasible to do this and the company would not move.

Immediate problem with this argument is that they have, in fact, moved to Mexico. Even during the election, I think it was FORD or some other company that--after Trump highlighted their move--quietly reversed the decision. Same is true for Oreos and many other companies.

108 posted on 10/31/2017 7:19:09 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: InterceptPoint

No, you’re not going to get that on these kind of thread which are dominated by people who confuse global totalitarian government with international free trade. They just can’t or won’t get there heads around it.

So they reject free international trade out of hand period. Fugeddabouddit.


109 posted on 10/31/2017 7:20:29 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I’d also be 100% ok with tarrifs if
1) that money did not go to the federal Government (something folks fail to remember because Uncle Sam always needs more) and
2) elimination of the Federal income tax because if the Government is raising its capital through tarrifs (what was done pre income tax) then they don’t need to be in my pockets


110 posted on 10/31/2017 7:20:50 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I agree there is a happy medium within all of this


111 posted on 10/31/2017 7:22:09 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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“Texans believe in international trade.”

Idiot. It is not trade that we don’t like, it is trade deals that are dismantling our economy.


112 posted on 10/31/2017 7:22:17 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Sequoyah101

“Who has paid for ted now?”

He was speaking before the US Chamber of Commerce.

The Chamber of Commerce owns the Republican Party...lock, stock and barrel.


113 posted on 10/31/2017 7:22:21 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jarhead9297

The sad fact is these trade agreements have little to do with free trade. Lately they have been used to usurp the constitution via treaty.

We have been opening our borders to “free” trade and immigration while our “partners” have been protecting their industries. Why would we ever enter into an agreement where the two junior partners - Canada and Mexico - can screw us over and when we complain they over rule us by a 2-1 vote?

Get it out of your mind that these partners are bein fair. They are using the naïveté of people like you to screw us over.


114 posted on 10/31/2017 7:22:41 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: Mariner
Orthodox Conservatism, hmmmm let me think about that.

From my studies of Republcan Party history I would say the orthodox position on trade would be staunch protectionism. The global push for de industrialization of the USA through offshoring and global labor arbitrage started in earnest in the 1980's. So given that I would call the NWO global free traders neocons. Would you agree?

115 posted on 10/31/2017 7:22:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

Cruz is for Mexico.

Trump is for America.

This is why Trump is President Trump.


116 posted on 10/31/2017 7:23:30 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: cornfedcowboy; central_va
Why do tariffs work? The usefulness of tariffs is that they protect American business by protecting them from other countries that might be producing the same products but for far cheaper costs--because, maybe, everybody lives in huts, or the government locks the employees in the building, and puts nets out to catch the inevitable jumpers. Tariffs do bring in revenues, but this is not as important as their role in evening the playing field and allowing American businesses to compete on a global market.
117 posted on 10/31/2017 7:23:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: central_va

Tariffs are on imports imports dolt. They can export to whomever.


Countries that are charged tariffs often quit doing business, or retaliate with their own tariffs. Who you gonna export to now? Dolts.


118 posted on 10/31/2017 7:24:13 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: central_va

Deficits are not always bad
You are an idiot.


Idiots would rather have $100 than have $200 and a $50 shorfall.


119 posted on 10/31/2017 7:26:36 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: cornfedcowboy

So in a battle of wills you would fold when you are backed by the largest economy in the world? Don’t be a cuck...


120 posted on 10/31/2017 7:28:15 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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