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Plan to divide California into 3 new states clears first hurdle
KABC ^ | October 27, 2017 | Staff

Posted on 10/28/2017 4:39:10 PM PDT by Trump20162020

SAN FRANCISCO -- A plan to split California into three separate states has cleared its first hurdle. Supporters are set to begin collecting signatures to qualify for next year's ballot.

"Creating three new governments three new legislatures, three new governors and then having to disrupt what we have as a state all our prison systems, our higher education systems," said political analyst Steven Maviglio. "I think diversity is what makes California great and this would actually ruin it."

If the measure were to make it on the ballot and be approved by voters it would also still need permission from Congress.

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1 posted on 10/28/2017 4:39:10 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

I thought they wanted to secede from the US. Now they want to stay and just mulitply their misery for the rest of us.


2 posted on 10/28/2017 4:42:35 PM PDT by native texan
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To: Trump20162020

One immediate problem is how to divide the state debt and continuing obligations. Second problem is the proposed boundaries. Monterey won’t want to be ruled from Los Angeles — that’s like day and night. Dividing the Great Crntrel Valley is problematical too. The details need to be worked out


3 posted on 10/28/2017 4:43:48 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are nothttps://www.youtube.com/watch born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Trump20162020

Hopefully even if California votes for this, someone with brains will knock it down in Congress. What am I saying? Who there has any brains?


4 posted on 10/28/2017 4:44:42 PM PDT by mairdie
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To: Trump20162020

The latest scheme to stop Trump, with 4 more senators and several more electoral vites. It will totally work this tine!


5 posted on 10/28/2017 4:45:04 PM PDT by scottinoc
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To: native texan

Article IV
Section. 3.
Clause 1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.


6 posted on 10/28/2017 4:45:10 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: native texan

That, and they also want to split in a way that preserves the left’s advantage.

If they really wanted to split, they’d do it along cleaner lines - allowing conservatives to have their own state(s).


7 posted on 10/28/2017 4:45:30 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: Trump20162020

As long as Northern CA has that hideous Bay Area, there is no chance it will ever be anything but what that state is now; some conservative outlying counties, but dominated by über-libs in the cities. Make SF and the rest I the Bay Area combine with the rest of the proggies on the coastline.


8 posted on 10/28/2017 4:45:32 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: Trump20162020

Total horsefeces. Northern CA gets screwed because it extends down to the Bay Area.


9 posted on 10/28/2017 4:45:46 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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To: Trump20162020

Ridiculous map...the Bay Area, Sacramento and Greater LA should be “Progfornia.” There is no way in hell the Bay Area and Sacto should be joined with Jefferson to the north. That guarantees “Northern California” would have two extreme leftist Senators. Absolute non-starter.

There is no way the rest of the country would go along with this proposal. Unless, maybe, you split Illinois into two states, Chicago one and the rest of Illinois two. The same for New York and maybe Ohio and Pennsylvania.


10 posted on 10/28/2017 4:46:04 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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*rest of the Bay Area


11 posted on 10/28/2017 4:47:44 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: native texan
I thought they wanted to secede from the US.

Not the same group. Some want secession, while others want to split-up the State.

12 posted on 10/28/2017 4:48:03 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Trump20162020
"...said political analyst Steven Maviglio. "I think diversity is what makes California great and this would actually ruin it."

Actually Steven, liberals are 100% against any sort of intellectual diversity. so having their own state would make them happy. However, this idea will never get off the ground because the good folks of northern California would not want to be associated with San Francisco.

13 posted on 10/28/2017 4:48:44 PM PDT by Baynative ( Someone's going to have to pay for these carbon emissions, so it might as well be you.)
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To: Bryan24

Constitution?

Don’t let that little pesky thing get in the way if a pipe dream.


14 posted on 10/28/2017 4:50:05 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (This time I am Deplorable)
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To: Trump20162020

This is how the commie bastards in California intend to get 6 senators. If the commie bastards pull this off, Texas needs to divide itself into 10 or 12 states.


15 posted on 10/28/2017 4:50:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Has Sheila JACKSON LEE changed her name yet?)
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To: Trump20162020

This would create 4 new democrat Senators. No thanks.


16 posted on 10/28/2017 4:52:03 PM PDT by 50mm (.. / -.. .. -.. / - .... .. ... / ..-. --- .-. / -. --- / .-. . .- ... --- -. .-.-.-)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

There is no way to split these areas. Take Ohio, no one in a conservative area would wish to be stranded in a DimLib hellhole. If you lived in the mostly conservative Cuyahoga Valley there is no way you will vote to be part of a new state dominated by Cleveland.


17 posted on 10/28/2017 4:53:38 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

With the right borders, two new California states would have 4 GOP Senators.

Dream on - Democrats in Sacramento will never accede to a scheme that would dilute their power and their votes even if Congress were to consent to it.

From that perspective, its already DOA.


18 posted on 10/28/2017 4:54:10 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: FreedomNotSafety
This could wind up with discontiguous "states." You could have Cleveland and Columbus become one state even though not adjoining each other. See, for example, Kaliningrad Oblast.
19 posted on 10/28/2017 5:05:19 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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What hurdles do proposed states 51 and 52 have to clear
before becoming a part of the USA?


20 posted on 10/28/2017 5:06:29 PM PDT by deport
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