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Las Vegas police shift timeline again in concert massacre
WSMV ^

Posted on 10/13/2017 1:31:32 PM PDT by JP1201

LAS VEGAS (AP) - Las Vegas investigators offered a new version of events Friday in a shifting timeline surrounding the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history as they described how the gunman opened fire on nearby airport jet fuel tanks and on police officers arriving at the massacre.

Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo held a highly anticipated news conference alongside the top FBI agent in Las Vegas amid questions about whether police could have done more to stop gunman Stephen Paddock on Oct. 1.

They provided no new information about Paddock's motivation as he killed 58 people and wounded more than 500 at a country music festival. Forty-five people remain hospitalized in critical condition, Lombardo said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsmv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: gunfiregraphic; gunfiretimeline; lasvegas; mandalay; paddock; paddocktimeline; stephenpaddock; vegas
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To: JP1201
Re: “There are no surveillance cameras in the hallways at the Mandalay Bay.”

Freaking unbelievable.

There are high-def security cameras on every floor of the middle class apartment building I live in!

61 posted on 10/13/2017 3:26:52 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Travis McGee

Great point about the girlfriends


62 posted on 10/13/2017 3:33:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

I’m convinced they’re covering something up now.
This whole case is BS!


63 posted on 10/13/2017 3:45:04 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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To: Bryan24

“My brother-in-law pilot of a single engine, piston driven aircraft. He had to know the difference between Jet-A and AvGas.”

So is my dad, my mom, my sister and lots of other people. I had ground school and only lack a bit more flight time to get my own ticket. So what. No where in that training was the flash point temp of Jet A. They teach you useful things like how to read weather charts and how to file a flight plan.

Knowing which fuel to pump into your plane and knowing how to make a tank of them go *boom* is not the same thing.


64 posted on 10/13/2017 3:48:55 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: JP1201

Before long we’ll find out the shooting hasn’t happened yet.


65 posted on 10/13/2017 3:49:15 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Meet the New Boss

I don’t think he was firing at the tanks. Ppl crashed the fence around the airport and headed for the swales between the taxiways because they were being fired on.

An employee at the airport told a friend passing thru to a connecting flight that the terminal was hit and maintenance men had to ‘fix it’. If you’re sitting on the tarmack at the terminal, the hotel is very prominent.

Who was flying in or out that night? Paddock wasn’t ready. He was still drilling. His plans were for later that night imo The concert was almost over - maybe 30 minutes more?


66 posted on 10/13/2017 3:50:50 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: caligatrux

the hotel is disputing the timeline now - says there was no 6 minute gap


67 posted on 10/13/2017 3:51:58 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Wow. I don’t believe any of this.


68 posted on 10/13/2017 3:52:33 PM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: TalonDJ

So... he hated fuel tanks?

I don’t know what to believe from TV News, and some law enforcement, anymore.

Just conversing.


69 posted on 10/13/2017 3:55:29 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24

The theory is that the plan (probably including more people than just Paddock) was to set the jet fuel on fire (tanks followed by underground lines), which would have caused explosion and destruction. The crowd would run away in the direction of the Mandalay Bay and be sitting ducks for a sniper.

I read that incendiary rounds had been found on the ground near the tanks, and we know that there were bullet holes in the skin of the tanks.

The big question is whether Paddock was pitching a one-man hissy fit or whether he was part of a larger plan with others who planned to use the distractive commotion from sniper and explosion to carry out something else.

If he did have collaborators, they let him down big time.

And the mystery of Jesus Campos continues.


70 posted on 10/13/2017 4:03:41 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: blueplum
I have thought that as well. Something was interrupted here. Something larger was definitely planned.

One part about the timeline that I don't understand... I have heard that Aldean was on his third song, and I have also heard that he was on his last song. Which was it? Was the show just starting or just about to end? If Paddock wasn't ready yet (still drilling), then what was the plan for after the show was over and people had emptied out of the venue?

71 posted on 10/13/2017 4:26:20 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: JP1201

He was “insulted” by those who question their story so far.

I don’t care.

He said there was no evidence of any political or religious motive.

I don’t believe him.

He was involved in the Bunkerville fiasco.

I don’t trust him.


72 posted on 10/13/2017 4:39:27 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Only a moron would believe, unquestioningly, the “official” story about anything.
that's not what I said. that's not even close to what I said. in fact, the light from what I said would take years to get to what you replied.
73 posted on 10/13/2017 4:41:38 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: JP1201

The LEOs can’t get the time nor their story straight and phones with videos turned over to them are coming back with the videos erased. Sounds like a cover up.


74 posted on 10/13/2017 4:50:12 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I just read an article about the guard leaving before a press conference and there was an image of the guard. When I saw the picture first thing I noticed was his beard.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/13/las-vegas-security-guard-jesus-campos-disappears-moments-before-tv-interviews.html


75 posted on 10/13/2017 4:50:14 PM PDT by funfan
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To: JP1201

And they wonder why there are conspiracy theories


76 posted on 10/13/2017 4:51:34 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: Travis McGee
And the probable illicit business requiring money to be laundered that leaps out at us in Paddock’s case is illegal gun sales.

That makes sense if we can get past reports that he bought guns in his name and passed background checks. But we don't yet know about all those rifles in the room. And they must know that by now.

77 posted on 10/13/2017 4:53:10 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: ponygirl

not sure. I did read a blip that one of the previous performers was coming up to do a duet on the next song and so was waiting backstage? maybe that would have been the finale? or, probably, one more after that?


78 posted on 10/13/2017 4:59:36 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: cynwoody

The audio from these videos is about the only near real info available to the general public.


79 posted on 10/13/2017 5:30:37 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Jedidah

If the plan was to have people run to the mandalay to be sitting ducks, there were ppl on the street and at the bus stop in front of the Mandalay. There were cabs that weren’t under the canopy. A bus came by and picked up the bus stop people. (!!)

What the map above needs, is to define the location of the first injuries after the first volley that smoked the stage equipment. Was he strafing the crowd with precision or was he adjusting his crappy aim in spite of alleged calculations?


80 posted on 10/13/2017 5:30:49 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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