Posted on 10/13/2017 8:53:01 AM PDT by rktman
On October 13 the Guardian reported that background check laws in Colorado and Washington state have proven a failure because citizens simply will not comply with them.
This means that after millions upon millions spent, political offices lost, and promises of a Utopian world with less gun crime made, the checks have been a bust.
According to The Guardian, the failure of these background check laws was discovered via research by Injury Prevention and it “is a setback for a growing gun control movement that has centered its national strategy on precisely the kind of state laws passed in Colorado and Washington.”
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Really ? Besides the standard NICS paperwork owners filled out, how many owners registered their purchase with the Mfg. for the warranty ? Who really thinks an FBI search warrant/court order of the purchase registration from the Mfg. wouldn't give the FBI all they need to get info on a large percentage of legal gun owners ? Private sales would stop the lookup going forward as of the last buyer but gives a start point for investigators.
Perfect. A splendid description of Gov. Inslee and his lackey AG Ferguson.
Do you honestly believe the government has the manpower to conduct 150 million house to house confiscations? Well, they don’t.
Do you honestly think 150 million gun owners would sit quiet, waiting their turn, for the goon squad to knock on their door? Some would, but many would consider such actions by the government as an act of war against the people, and would act accordingly.
The Framers instinctively understood that the only sure protection against tyranny, was to ensure the populace was armed. They were correct.
The whole ‘American Experiment’ would have been crushed out of existence long ago, were it not for the fact that we are an armed people. Our guns are the ONLY thing that has stayed the tyrants’ hands.
“Whenever someone would offer a gun for sell they were clear ID was mandatory and a CCL preferable.”
I used to see those requirements in ads but no longer (in WA State).
I've made that same point many times in this debate.
If 15,000 'insurgents' could tie our military down in Iraq for a solid decade, how in the hell are they going to defeat 15,000,000 pissed off and dedicated patriots who are fighting to save themselves and their country from a government gone rogue?
I haven’t visited the forums in years so I had to take a look. Still seeing ads asking for licenses. Some stipulating buyer pays transfer fees, which sounds like they’d have to go through a dealer.
Exactly!
When the”Nazis” bombed Pearl Harbor
They said
“A rifle behind Every Blade of Grass”
I’m on a jelly roll.
What makes you think that I believe differently than you do? I agree with everything said in your post (well, except that I don’t think that there are 150 million gun owners...I think that it is between 110 and 120 million. However, the same conclusions result from those numbers as yours, so it doesn’t really matter that much.
I’m fond of a particular meme that I saw a few weeks back:
“Look at how the government treats us when there are 400 million guns in civilian hands. Now consider how they would treat us if we had no guns.”
Washington was right - “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence — it is force. Like fire it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.” Government WANTS to be our master, and the ONLY thing preventing it is - as you mentioned - the fact that we are armed to the teeth and CANNOT be made into slaves if we don’t allow it.
Private sales stop the chain of title cold.
Frankly, so does the death of the original buyer - because any sane individual who was a beneficiary would say that they were sold (unless in a state that required some type of registration and/or accounting for a decedent’s guns - those people cannot do this) to some random, anonymous person.
I have heard of people who look up obituaries, and back-date a “sale” of a firearm to that person by a few months. They include a name, address (which anyone can find pretty easily) and a Driver’s License number (which they make up, just being careful to get the number of digits correct for their state). I’m not recommending this ***of course*** but just stating that I’ve heard of this.
The more time that passes, the more guns that go “off paper.” I’m not upset about that.
That, of course, completely leaves out people making their own ARs, 1911s, Glocks and Ruger 10-22s out of 80% receivers (which are NOT guns, just paperweights, when they buy them...the act of machining them to accept pins, etc. causes them to then be a firearm). There are dozens to hundreds of companies selling these, plus the jigs to finish out the receivers with drills, drill presses or routers, and more every week.
10-22 “blanks”?
I shall research.
Thanks.
Laws against murder fail, because criminals fail to comply.
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