Skip to comments.Las Vegas shooter believed to have used hotel's freight elevator before attack
Posted on 10/10/2017 2:55:41 PM PDT by pissant
Law enforcement sources told CBS News that Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock is believed to have used the freight elevator at the Mandalay Bay hotel casino in the days leading up to last week's deadly attack.
It wasn't clear what Paddock used the freight elevator for or how often he used it.
CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton reports authorities were continuing to comb through Paddock's electronic devices including a laptop and cellphone at the FBI crime lab in Quantico, Virginia. So far, none of the devices point to a motive for the shooting rampage.
Meanwhile, billboards requesting assistance from the public have delivered a large response with callers offering possible leads and information about Paddock, Milton reports.
The FBI has more than 50 agents and personnel on site assisting Las Vegas police with evidence recovery, interviews and other investigative work.
During a news conference on Monday, authorities made a significant change to the timeline of the mass shooting, saying Paddock shot a hotel security guard before he opened fire on concert-goers.
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Apparently he was fairly well-known at the casino because he was a high-roller. If that is true, then he could probably get a key-card to use the freight elevator. Vegas hotels are used to catering to strange requests for people.
To me, that would have been somewhat obvious. How else do you get that many weapons to the floor he was on? I can imagine a SNL skit where he trucks everything through the lobby, saying he is a NRA salesperson. The audience for SNL would find that perfectly believable.
[Pst: if you’re a LEFTie checking us out, the NRA does not sell weapons directly to the public.]
Steve Wynn was interviewed in the last couple of days - it was shown locally, but I think also on one of the network news magazines. He said in the interview that no one in his hotels uses the freight elevator unescorted by staff. He looked a bit sheepish after he said it like he might have said something he shouldn’t...he looked around furtively after he said it. Then he simply stopped talking about it and went on to other questions.
I see people wondering about how he got all the guns up to the room a lot, and I don’t understand that at all. Seems to me it would be really easy to get the guns up to the room.
Put them into suitcases or duffel bags with wheels. Wheel a couple bags up to the room. Wait a few minutes. Go bag down, wheel up a couple more duffel bags.
Or, get a dolly and load a half-dozen bags full of guns and ammo onto it. Roll it to the elevator. Go up to the room. Unload. Repeat until all the guns are in the room.
It would take several trips and a fair amount of time, but its not exactly that difficult.
Hotel security guard, “Okay, shoot me in the leg. The fleshy part and DON’T hit an artery.”
Does the hotel have security cameras on their hallways and elevators?
They should have cameras EVERYWHERE. Yet the dude had time and clearance to bolt a steel bar to one of the exit doors????
So he was known at the casino, and had used an elevator that is normally not used by the public.
In some hotels you need a card to swipe for the service. But that can be detrimental in a fire. I have used the service elevator many times in hotels and conference centers.
I think many people over several days brought up the guns so as not to draw attention. Maybe the same people would wait for a shift change and used the bellhop carts.
“It would take several trips and a fair amount of time, but its not exactly that difficult.”
Agreed. It is just stuff. People in Vegas probably have all kinds of bulky and fairly heavy stuff. Displays for booths, video equipment, and such for conventions.
"And with only one of the two hundred bullets, OK?"
Sounds more like he was very friendly with someone who was authorized to use the freight elevator—like a security guard, perhaps?
Bagster—more and more it seems like Campos is part of all this. 200 rounds down the hallway, and he has only a leg wound?
With the timeline changed so dramatically, now it is a question of why it took so long 1) for the police to reach the 32nd floor and Campos, and 2) why did it take so long to breach the door.
And in the middle of an active investigation, why was the SWAT team on 60 minutes Sunday night being interviewed on national television?
The whole thing just reeks!
I’d like to know whom Paddock voted for in the 2016 election season? Dem or Repub ? Who in the Primaries ? Who in the General ? It would be solid gold to know .....
I have too. In his position, I would not have used it for bringing supplies up to the room, but it could easily have been my primary escape route. Even if it looks clear, the public elevators and stairwells are almost certain to be monitored, while the freight elevator has a (small) chance to be overlooked. Or perhaps a service elevator to the second floor (if that is public areas rather than rooms), and then an open staircase instead of an emergency staircase that goes to the top for descending that last floor.
I saw that interview with Wynn. It was on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace. Wynn’s comment seemed to come out of nowhere and Wallace stopped him. “Did he go in the service elevator, Steve?” And Wynn said nobody goes in the back of the house unaccompanied by security. Wynn obviously knew more than the public then.
Was the exit door that Paddock bolted shut with a steel bar the door the police came through? I haven’t read anything about if they had to breach that door. If not then what was the purpose of Paddock bolting that door if there was another way in?
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