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Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire
LA Times ^ | October 9, 2017 | Matt Pearce et al

Posted on 10/09/2017 7:13:31 PM PDT by ALASKA

Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren’t able to pinpoint the gunman’s location sooner.

Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had unleashed his deadly volley at the Route 91 Harvest festival, an assault that began at 10:05 p.m. and left 58 people dead, with hundreds more injured.

They had credited Campos, who was shot in the leg, with stopping the 10-minute assault on the concert crowd by turning the gunman’s attention to the hotel hallway, where Campos was checking an alert for an open door in another guest’s room.

But Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday that Paddock shot Campos before his mass shooting — at 9:59 p.m. — and they now don’t know why Paddock stopped his attack on the crowd.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bumpstock; camposmotive; jesuscampos; lasvegas; lvinvestigation; lvmassacre; paddocktimeline; shooter; stephenpaddock; witnesssuicide
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To: Bryan24

a few days ago there was posting of M Bay has roughly 200 security and any given shift has about 17 on duty. I don’t know if that was fact or supposition but i know it was in a thread a few days ago.


121 posted on 10/09/2017 8:44:56 PM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: csn vinnie

The two are not related. I think Paddock was into gambling as a way to launder money. But that’s just my opinion. I saw the leaked photos, he was clearly shot through the mouth. Now please explain a dynamic where someone can trip and get a rifle into their mouth and fire.


122 posted on 10/09/2017 8:45:10 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: UCANSEE2

not if i see pooled blood that looks like it’s drying already or any other quick clues to the contrary.


123 posted on 10/09/2017 8:46:41 PM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: ALASKA

They’ll likely be checking to see if Campos knew Paddock previous to this and if it was on a personal level.


124 posted on 10/09/2017 8:48:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PA Engineer

choking on his own blood from the shooting? You mean the suicide? No one ever shot at Paddock according to the official story.


125 posted on 10/09/2017 8:48:43 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: snarkytart

Hour and a half if I have to wear clothes.


126 posted on 10/09/2017 8:51:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ALASKA

tired of being lied to.


127 posted on 10/09/2017 8:52:11 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: ALASKA

The security guard was supposedly shot through the door by the perp firing 200 rounds. Bur he was hit only once?
This makes no sense. So after he is hit in the leg, he runs off or perp doesn’t come out into hall to finish Him?
I’d like to see where the security guard was standing and also see the 200 holes in the wall/ floor and ceiling from the other 199 that missed.

Also I remember the sheriff saying that there were 8 cops about thirty seconds behind the secunity guard in one of the initial press breifings.


128 posted on 10/09/2017 8:52:38 PM PDT by DOGHEAD
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To: gaijin

“....sold only to 3-letter agencies, SF (CEO of that phone company suicides right after FBI questioning)...”
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gaijin, do you have a link to something substantiating this? Or are you just trying to inject some BS for some reason?


129 posted on 10/09/2017 8:53:16 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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To: b4me

I wonder when the picture was taken. It almost looks like they had to make another wound to get more blood out of him to make it look realistic, time wise.


130 posted on 10/09/2017 8:54:39 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Bryan24

“If the guard was shot at least 6 minutes before the shooting started out the windows, what was the MB Security team doing?”

Obviously I have no idea what happened - but it would seem to me that the shooter would want to stay quiet and not draw attention to himself prior to shooting.

They say the guard went to check on a door a few doors down from the shooter’s door - so I am assuming that that was by chance - or perhaps someone trying to trap the shooter. I imagine it will be easy enough for them to figure out who’s room it was.

I’m guessing the shooter saw the guard on his cameras, figured that somehow the guard knew what he was up to, and shot him.

I would also imagine that the guard radioed down that he had been shot. I would also figure that the hotel has some sort of protocol for that. Maybe call 911 for the deadly threat and the security team gets guests out of possible danger zones, makes them stay in place, etc.

Master Criminal Hat on - the shooter knew all of their protocols and used them to his advantage. Maybe some day the front desk guy will come forward and say “He seemed really afraid after that Pulse Nightclub shooting and didn’t want to come in anymore. He was asking all sorts of questions about our security....”

Sinister Crime Plot Hat on - the shooting was a diversion while his genius brother (cleverly putting on his “I’m an idiot” routine for the press) was downstairs in the vault stealing millions of dollars.

I do think that the security team is probably more of a defensive team, trying to get people to safety, etc. I imagine we will never know how many of them are actually armed.


131 posted on 10/09/2017 8:55:15 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: b4me
not if i see pooled blood that looks like it’s drying already or any other quick clues to the contrary.

How long was it between the time they fired en masse at the door to his room, and when they entered his room ?

132 posted on 10/09/2017 8:58:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Mariner

Also if Paddock shot 200 rounds towards the guard, why did he stop and let the guard go, and how does a guard get away from 200 rounds was he in the Matrix or something? I’m not buying it.


133 posted on 10/09/2017 8:58:27 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: fatima
tired of being lied to.

Unfortunately, most people in this world make their living off of lying.

134 posted on 10/09/2017 9:00:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: House Atreides

I’m not in front of a computer just now but tomorrow morning I will be.

and if you’re not nicely instead of in a needlessly rude fashion I will give you numerous links to the story, which is extremely interesting.


135 posted on 10/09/2017 9:02:05 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: ALASKA
I am going to just assume that everything the spokes creatures are telling us is a lie until proven otherwise.

I am not buying into conspiracy theories, I am just not believing the big fat blob of nothing they have been putting out.

136 posted on 10/09/2017 9:04:26 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: UCANSEE2

Paddock ‘bled out’ from his mouth. You can see that in the crime scene photo. This does NOT mean he was shot in the mouth or even in the head for that matter. He merely bled out his mouth, could’ve been shot in the heart for all we know. They don’t show us anything beyond a head shot.


137 posted on 10/09/2017 9:05:32 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: snarkytart
Sorry, Snark; I'm not buying it. In your post 56, you wrote:

"try to approach the building in the midst of bullets raining down on them"

But the only body-cam I see in your later post is of security, way across the street, at the concert venue - who probably did feel that bullets were 'raining down' on them. But I haven't seen any body cam of actual police officers entering the building, going up the stairs, etc., or heard of anyone near the building who mentioned bullets raining DOWN. The shooting was going over the heads of anyone actually entering the building.

(And if you believe much that you see on CBS, well...)
138 posted on 10/09/2017 9:05:33 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: ALASKA

There were reports Paddock blocked a stairwell etc. Did the security guard get trapped between the gunfire and any other exit?


139 posted on 10/09/2017 9:09:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ALASKA

There were reports Paddock blocked a stairwell etc. Did the security guard get trapped between the gunfire and any other exit?


140 posted on 10/09/2017 9:09:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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