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Fed Up Donors Tell GOP Senate Leaders Pass Bills Or Resign
tennesseestar.com ^ | 10/8/17

Posted on 10/09/2017 1:54:58 PM PDT by cotton1706

Earlier this week we told you about how Nick Ayers, Vice President Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff had bluntly told a group of major donors that they should tell Capitol Hill’s Republican establishment that they would “…not only stop donating, I would form a coalition of all the other major donors, and just say two things. We’re definitely not giving to you, No. 1. And No. 2, if you don’t have this done by Dec. 31, we’re going out, we’re recruiting opponents, we’re maxing out to their campaigns, and we’re funding super PACs to defeat all of you.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 115th; ditchmitch; donors; elections; speakerryan
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To: Political Junkie Too

Seems like #2 would serve to keep the swamp in power. #3, if that is the desire, then I think that you would be more likely to get that. #4- Really? You think that money would be eliminated? LOL.

I have thought this over, and have wondered if there isn’t a need for maybe another chamber to represent the country as a whole, with those people elected nationwide. Reps are supposed to be for the people of their state, and senators originally were supposed to represent their states, but there is no one to represent the country as a whole.


41 posted on 10/09/2017 4:20:16 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Charlottesville PD Motto- When things get rough, we get gone!)
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To: tinamina

Well get moving. Find a couple of good Republicans and have them switch parties to Democrat in case the Governer needs to appoint a Dem.

Damn, Repubs don’t think much.


42 posted on 10/09/2017 4:36:33 PM PDT by TheNext (Taxes are Hate !)
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To: tinamina
>...the Governor of Arizona is required to appoint a Democrat to fulfill the term. <

why is that?

43 posted on 10/09/2017 4:39:58 PM PDT by ex91B10
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To: Paladin2

well then nothin can be done


44 posted on 10/09/2017 4:47:18 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: tinamina

Well 2 can play that game. The gov should find the most conservative republican he can find and say he how about you be a democrat on paper wink wink. Nod nod.


45 posted on 10/09/2017 4:54:05 PM PDT by Panhandle.deporable
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To: matthew fuller
RE: #2 - the swamp in power...

I think the difference is that they are corrupt for their own state interests.

It's easier to manage 50 corruptions localized to their individual states, instead of the collusion of corruption at the federal level that is nationalized against the states and the people.

At least with the states, you have the self-interests of the other 49 states to balance the corruption of a runaway state. National corruption ends with weaponizing the arms of government against its people in order to protect the establishment.

RE: #4 - The money... let's think it through.

I think that doing away with the elections will dry up the existing money spigots, such as McConnell's NRSC. What legitimate FEC filings would explain why he raises the money if there are no Senate elections? What reportable expenditures could he make that's not an out-and-out bribe to state legislators if there is no state election, just a vote in the legislative chambers?

He will have to rebuild a new power network to replace it, since it would be harder for McConnell to use national money to influence the state appointment in Mississippi or Alabama, like he's done in the past. There would be no more primaries and run-offs to influence, and no general election to dilute with fake candidates to split votes.

I'd like to hear how you view the role of money in a non-elected Senate.

-PJ

46 posted on 10/09/2017 4:59:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Weren’t Federal Senators chosen by state legislatures prior to Amendment 17? I don’t remember quite that far back. But even if they are appointed, that’s where some money can change hands.


47 posted on 10/09/2017 5:20:40 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Charlottesville PD Motto- When things get rough, we get gone!)
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To: matthew fuller
You'll have to be a little more elaborate than that.

There are oversight committees, auditors, inspectors general, state attorneys general, partisan newspapers, etc. Give me a scenario where a federal Congressional Senator (or majority/minority leader) would engage in a quid pro quo illegal cash transfer to influence an entire legislature to vote for the Washington DC party's favorite over a local favorite.

-PJ

48 posted on 10/09/2017 5:46:33 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: matthew fuller

1. the obscene amount of money spent in senatorial races will be seriously reduced.

2. They will need to be more responsive to the needs of the state.

3. The constitution called for the Legislature to select their senator. The people select their house members, but the legislature selects the senator. I believe that is a better arrangement and will keep the senators from being slaves to their donors and lobbyists. The state will be all important to them.


49 posted on 10/09/2017 6:16:08 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: beergarden

We’re gittin Flake this time around. McCain will not run again.


50 posted on 10/09/2017 7:27:23 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: ex91B10

AZ law that if a sitting Senator can’t fulfill their term, the Governor has to replace with a person of the same party.


51 posted on 10/09/2017 7:46:16 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: cotton1706

Sad that these donors are the only ones the GOPe/RINOs might listen to....


52 posted on 10/10/2017 2:46:10 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Nuc 1.1

The new boss will be the old boss. Flake is a younger McCain. What is with AZ Republicans? Is it the heat?


53 posted on 10/10/2017 10:45:19 AM PDT by beergarden
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To: beergarden

Apparently. I think Flake is done. He is no McCain. I will say this, when election time nears McCain campaigns to the right of the John Birch Society. He just lies to the people about what he wants to do and what he believes. People who only pay attention during the run up to an election simply don’t know any better. Their fault of course but that has been the case for quite a while.


54 posted on 10/12/2017 3:51:17 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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