Posted on 09/05/2017 1:36:41 PM PDT by Pinkbell
I agree. Although I think it's quite difficult to deport a congresscritter.
You read about the Daily News being sold for $1, in large part, if not mostly, because they didn’t bother giving a crap about their customer base.
...so now you have this. I think a few of them in the House may be from heavily Hispanic districts where they do want DACA to stay - but for the rest, especially someone like Flake, who’s totally on the ropes even now - is it really worth ending his career trying to protect a bunch of MS13 types?
We’ve faced that very thing here in occupied territory in Southern California.
Three to five families living in a single family dwelling isn’t something new. It’s been going on here for decades.
How do you compete with that? You can’t.
Meanwhile the areas these homes are in become instant slums. They have high crime, gangs, and hyper anti-Americanism, because these folks recognize their life-styles are worse than the White middle class life-style.
And whose fault is that? These folks made their own beds, and now blame Whitey for all their problems.
The guys they screwed over and displaced for half the salary, are now the ones they blame for it all.
Just idiotic.
“I suspect 2/3 in the house would be even harder to get.”
Something like 96 Republicans in the House are needed for an override...and, of course, every one of those 96 is up for re-election next year.
I’m expecting Miss Lindsay to announce that she too has developed Glioblastoma from having her head up McCain’s a$$ all these years.
Just sent this to our Congressman:
We are in FULL SUPPORT of President Trump’s actions to uphold the law, and allow the DACA to expire. This is why we voted for Mr. Trump AND FOR YOU. We are sick of paying taxes to support those who are not in this country legally, but who require so much of our resources to be here. Please know that we want him to BUILD THE WALL, keep deporting those who are here illegally, and STOP any and all incentives, which might encourage those from other countries to come here without going through proper procedures and waits.
Thank you.
Those 9 are the usual suspects, none is surprise to me.
If Mexico will begin a DACA program for foreigners illegally in Mexico, then these 9 can say they have a valid case. However Mexico is 100 times more strict with illegals than USA. Any one remember what happened to that young military guy who was suffering PTSD and took a wrong turn and ended up in Mexico?
The deal I proposed about a year ago:
1. The people covered would be Dreamers, Anchor Baby parents, and five-year+ “full” taxpayers, with exceptions (felons, those ordered deported, those who arrived after 2008, etc.).
2. To retain the right to stay, an immigrant would have to:
A. apply within 12 months and pay a $500 application processing fee to the USCIS
B. agree in writing to make donations (to be non-dischargable by federal bankruptcy law) of 10% of their pre-tax income
(minimum $300/quarter) to the Social Security Trust Fund for 27 years, starting in 2020, and then pay by estimated tax due dates via the IRS
C. obtain high-quality [better than bronze, deductible <$2,000 or that of the person’s US employer plan] health insurance coverage, meeting applicable US legal requirements, without government subsidy, except via a small employer/small employers under general law, within 12 months
D. maintain (thereafter), except for involuntary gaps not exceeding three months in any twelve, high-quality health insurance coverage, meeting applicable US legal requirements, without government subsidy, while the PPACA is on the books
E. pay a mandatory $1000 quarterly eligibility maintenance (and personal deportation abeyance) fee to USCIS by estimated tax due dates until the Constitutional amendments are fully ratified
[3% goes to USCIS, of the remainder, the first $20 billion raised goes to the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, all the rest into the Social Security Disability Trust Fund]
F. pay all standard and expedited USCIS immigration fees within 18 months
G. pay a $2,000 amnesty service charge within 24 months to USCIS, discounted $40 for each month prior to the 24th
H. pay in full all US income tax amounts past due, get privately audited at their expense and then pass an IRS audit, all within 36 months
I. pay starting in 2020, a $500 tax shortfall fee for each quarter prior to 2017 and after 2006 the immigrant has not proven foreign residency/age of under 18 or lacked US income tax quarterly withholding of at least $400,
at the rate of $500 a quarter on US estimated tax due dates, to the IRS
J. pay a one-time, $5,000, non-refundable fee to the USDOT, to drive a motor vehicle on a US highway, always prior to doing so
3. They would get:
a. for 90 days, plus three days for each state that has ratified all of the Constitutional amendments we want
I. no apprehension of persons simply for immigration control/border security purposes at least 100 miles from a coast or national border
or within two miles of any listed USCIS office at least ten miles from a coast or national border
II. no detention simply for immigration control/border security purposes longer than 10 minutes of any applicant with specified official ID whose picture and name is available on the USCIS applicant registry system
b. thereafter, provided the immigrant has been paying and doing what the amnesty act and other federal law requires
I. no detention of qualified/approved applicants simply for immigration control purposes longer than necessary to verify the person is qualified/approved and in good standing
II. no deportation of qualified/approved applicants
4. We would get Constitutional amendments that would:
A. cap income/property taxation
B. restrain the judicial branch
C. repeal the first sentence (the citizenship by birth in USA clause) of Amendment XIV and declare that:
Every child born in the USA after ratification shall be born with the citizenship of their mother.
No foreigner may be granted US citizenship unless the foreigner is over age 22 and has paid US federal income tax [in excess of the value of two ounces of gold] on personal US earnings in each of the prior four years.
No treaty may be entered into that would require US residency/naturalization/citizenship/welfare benefits to be granted.
specify that:
D. No bill liberalizing naturalization or increasing any federal fee or imposing new federal taxation may be passed by Congress, except by contemporary roll call votes showing approval by:
a. at least 70% of the representatives in the House of Representatives and
b. at least 80% of the senators in the Senate
E. There shall be no estate taxation, except for:
a. federal estate taxation, to be used within twelve months of receipt to (help) pay off the existing national debt or that refinanced
b. existing or reduced state estate taxation
F. There shall be no other federal wealth/property taxation other than that federal estate taxation
G. Federal benefits, welfare and educational, medical and custodial care aid may be paid only from:
I. the first 10% of incomes, personal or corporate, under federal basic income taxation
II. federal alcohol/tobacco/drug/fat/sweetener/telecom taxation
III. and to reasonably provide medical benefits/financial payments to US people of at least 65 years of age:
a. flat-rate compensation taxation, equally up to 10% each on employer/employee, up to $24,000/year in total per employee
b. self-employment taxation no more than that employer/employee taxation on an after federal tax basis
c. recipient medical insurance program premiums that may vary solely by age
d. Social Security trust funds
H. There shall be no new federal loans made to private entities or natural persons, except to partially or fully refinance existing federal loan amounts at equal or better terms for the borrowers and federal government
I. Except for the refinancings under (H), no new federal loan guarantees shall be made
J. The federal government shall not issue any new pension guarantee, except on pensions payable to its veterans with at least 180 days of foreign battlefield and ground-to-air missile-defended airspace service
K. Federal regulation of the amount of private sector employee compensation shall be limited to setting monetary minimum wages, with reasonable monetary variations as Congress may selectively allow
[no more buying the votes of political interest groups at employer expense]
and provide that:
L. The President shall have line item veto power after January 20, 2021
5. An immigrant would lose the right to stay:
a. for failing to apply and pay in a timely manner, with one 60-day grace period per $5,000 paid by the immigrant in amnesty act levies
[excludes standard income tax law payments, no grace period for USDOT fee]
b. for failing to timely obtain/maintain high-quality health coverage, except for involuntary gaps not exceeding three months in any twelve, while the PPACA is on the books
c. for taking a government health insurance subsidy after 2017, if not from small business employment under general law, and not returning it within 90 days of demand
d. after committing a felony
In other words....no free amnesty card for illegals.
Durbin and Graham gave a press conference and they both sounded as though they would be willing to add border security in with it. Graham did say that no one wanted a wall all across the border, but maybe some parts. They both seemed to be gloating in their new power.
Anyone hear from Marco?
I’m not seeing any rush to microphones from RINOs and fake
conservatives after Sessions announcement.
And it has been hours since his announcement.
Only a few usual suspects seem to want to go on record.
And a few is not nearly enough to pass a bill.
Me thinks the coming primary season is keeping the rest quiet.
Get a hobby...
“If Mexico starts to improve and becomes more like Canada, that means that laws would have to be enforced, corrupt politicians would have to be outed, and other terrible things that would raise the cost of corrupting their government to United States prices :-) “
The US has the finest politicians money can buy.
>> these are undocumented Democrats
Excellent description. Yes, they must all be Primaried.
Illegal aliens and criminal trespassers. No respect for the rule of law, and no respect for our country.
I’m sure that McStain will hop on that list if it is necessary to screw over Trump.
The key here is that Trump MUST tell Congress that he isn’t signing any straight amnesty deals for the DACA people - because right now, they are all illegals. However, with some compromise from the hard-liners of the “let them all in, now” crowd, amnesty for these folks can be permitted. That compromise MUST counter - hard - the natural inclination of people to see an amnesty, and to then assume that it’ll happen again and again. That, to me, involves 2 things: First, end birthright citizenship once and for all. This is easy - in the amnesty bill, Congress simply slips in a sentence saying words to the effect that, “under the terms of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, the U.S. government will have no jurisdiction over any person born within the US or its territories, unless at least one of the parents of that person was, at the time of that person’s birth, a citizen of the US or a legal permanent resident of the US.” Second, insert a section providing for the construction of a border wall along our southern border, and significant improvements to security along our northern border, and significant increases in immigration security at ports and airports.
Do those 2 things, and I’m OK with leaving the Dreamers alone. Oh, and they can become citizens if they apply like anyone else for permanent residence - AFTER getting a job, AND so long as they are not a public charge, or guilty of any felony, during the entire time that they are applying for permanent residence or citizenship.
Let’s see if the Dems, and the Dems masquerading as Republicans, are actually so compassionate toward the Dreamers. If they are, they’ll agree to this compromise. If not, they’ll obstruct and bloviate, and attempt to blame Trump for everything. Tens of millions of Americans are watching, CLOSELY.
“border security”
I want wallet/purse/bank account security from welfare state loving politicians (and their potential future voters).
That’s 9 too many.
They sure do like virtue signalling with taxpayer money.
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