Posted on 09/04/2017 8:31:29 AM PDT by Libloather
In contrast to the so-called Calexit movement, which aspires to secession, these proponents see California’s salvation in greater local autonomy within the union.
A few years ago, a bid to create six states out of California drew wide media attention but ultimately fizzled.
Now, the architect of that effort, a tech billionaire named Timothy C. Draper, is back with another idea: three Californias. He submitted paperwork that would put the question before voters in 2018.
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In order to prevent this secession the powers that be temporarily upped police enforcement, etc. in the suburbs and ran lots of scare stories.
The people voted against secession, i.e. they took the Blue Pill.
Secession will never happen because the people will have to vote on it and they will vote no, either because of fear of change or because they believe it will really not change anything and just cost a lot of money.
The elephant in the room is the evermore centralized nature of our government: who cares if California is one state or three if most decisions are now made at the Federal level?
Just so long as it is not done such that two of the new states are not dominated by coastal Democrat megacities. We don’t need two or four additional Communist Senators.
NO!
Splitting Calif into 3, instead of 6, allows big city liberals to continue to control everything that goes on.
6 state solution is the only way to isolate the major urban areas
“”I like Southern CA and it sure looks to have a chance at being red.””
You can say that after the 2016 Presidential election? It was true at one time (at least in OC) but times, they are a changin’!!
I spoke to an old friend/neighbor in OC last week and found two votes that went to Hillary in November. Spoke to another old friend/coworker in OC and she just groaned when I brought it up...The first one really has had a number done on her and I have no reason not to include her husband in that. Supposedly bright folks but they’re not about to give up their perception of what Donald Trump is...”He’s a dictator - he’s going to get us in a war” and THAT is from someone who is a relatively new citizen of the U. S., from Ireland. I was disappointed!
I have other old friends who don’t have cable or internet but at least they have a radio and can listen to something other than what they get from the networks and they LISTEN!!!
If they can get away with it, then I want to take the most conservative state, and like the three Californias, give it four more U.S. Senators.
Looks like SoCal would be red. (Middle) California and NorCal blue.
If Middle California was the coast from LA to San Francisco you might have Middle California blue with NorCal and SoCal red.
“Now almost 90 years later is has become a bastion of perversion, liberalism, socialism, and atheism”
brought to us by mass 3rd world immigration, legal as well as illegal.
“Something that most folks fail to consider when calling for jettisoning the entire state to Mexico:”
Too late. The two Bushes and Clinton and Obama succeeded in handing us over to Mexico long ago.
“Yeah, northern California would be just as red as
Oregon and Washington.”
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Before you go opening the cyber version of your pie
hole try a little research and while you are at it
try to get your mind around the concept that there are
actual living, breathing Northern Californians who are
active FReepers who have an idea of the local
landscape and the possibilities. And, when you
see me posting bullshit about Massachusetts then you
can slap me around and I would be deserving of it.
Northern California has nothing to do with Southern
California OR the Bay Area. Witness the State of
Jefferson campaign.
As a ‘Northern Inland’ Californian your analysis is
spot on. You must either be one of us or you are
far more perceptive than the typical dolt from
elsewhere who post drivel as opposed to asking us
locals what we think. Imagine what it must be like
to sit in a room full of people who are all talking
about you but not knowing or caring what you might
have to say.
Thanks, laplata, my friend. You stoked the coals
when the outside temp is in the 90s here at the 3k ft
elevation. LOL
My responses are #49, #50, #51.
Think I’ll slow it down while my BP is in check.
Your red turf doesnt extend any further than your front porch. Why are you dissing Massachusetts? Some one from there may slap you around for that.
You cant win in the state so you want to divide it up and conquer your little part of it and spoil it for everyone else with more liberal votes so you can have your say.
You’ll have better luck with CalExit at that chance is ZERO.
Pack your shit. Move to somewhere that doesnt have liberals in charge, and when you do, drag my stupid brother out with you. Of course this will all be after you stop beating your wife.
Dissing Mass? You ARE a DF, aren’t You?
As far as leaving, if I had absolutely nothing to
live for except politics I might consider moving
to a state like, say.... Kansas. And, if your wife
ever stops coming around I may quit beating my own
wife....
If California did secede (and I doubt it) it will be
easier for NorCal to separate and rejoin the US as
the 50th state. The opposition to this possibility
would mainly come from liberals across the country.
Whatever, if it came to secession we will fight to
free ourselves from the liberal asshats. They can’t
stop us and there will be SoCal conservatives to join
The cause.
And Guantanamo Base is the real world example of how that does not matter. :P
You’re welcome, friend.
I hope your weather cools off. Don’t let the bastards affect your health.
Checking your posts now.
+ 10
If there are so many of you why cant you win in the political spectrum without gerrymandering the localities and political lines to fall where you want them to?
You have had since Sept of 1850 to get your shit together, instead you've let illegals of every nationality freely into your state to sponge of of your and my work. Allowed them to take or freely giving them things that rightly belong to American citizens and then telling your police NOT to enforce the laws that we have lived by for over 150 years and let the invaders roam the streets without question or fear of reprisal.
The illegals in your state have more freedom than you do! They and their facilitators are the ones in charge of you and every conservative minded individual legally registered to vote, and will decide what portion of what you worked hard for you will get to keep. You have given them all of their power to control you and now refuse to admit that you are overwhelmed behind enemy lines.
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