Posted on 09/04/2017 8:31:29 AM PDT by Libloather
In contrast to the so-called Calexit movement, which aspires to secession, these proponents see Californias salvation in greater local autonomy within the union.
A few years ago, a bid to create six states out of California drew wide media attention but ultimately fizzled.
Now, the architect of that effort, a tech billionaire named Timothy C. Draper, is back with another idea: three Californias. He submitted paperwork that would put the question before voters in 2018.
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Water and debt, maybe electricity too. Nothing will occur unless the various government elements can agree on those types of details and it would also bring the fundamental instability of California’s governing system into the light.
This map is often an eye opener for people wno are not familiar with California politics.
Yeah, northern California would be just as red as Oregon and Washington.
Is this just a gerrymandered option designed to give the Dems four more senate seats, but still keep all the electoral votes for President?
In the interim, create a Constitutional Amendment that prohibits any jurisdiction from controlling any more that 5% of the electoral vote. Thus Cali and other most populous states would have do divide up for Presidential elections.
Thanks.
Two states then: Jefferson and the rest is left wing Cal/Mexico!
BINGO
“This plan sounds like 3 smaller blue states instead of one large blue state, giving the dems 4 more senators. No thanks.!
Right no thank you.
Go for a Cal Exit with the new state of Jefferson.
Then, we would gain 4 $inators, and the libs would lose 2 $inators and about 20 Congre$$its.
That would be only temporary as libs would soon move out of the hellhole states created by them and into the comparatively decent red states. They would then proceed to turn them into blue states and more Dem U.S. Senators.
Absolutely not. California already has two worthless Democrat senators. No reason in the world for them to have four more.
6 would be better, but 3 is good if the map is drawn correctly. One loony bin from LA to SF, one SoCal for Orange, SD, Riverside and San Berdu, and one for the north and central. Libs would never agree to that, though.
That division would be a total disaster for conservatives. Instead of 1 ultra liberal states you would have three.
You and others would be surprised. Take a look at a map of California red counties. 2/3 are red. Like most states, NY, IL, CT... the dense population centers are liberal.
http://www.hcdmag.com/military-bases-california/
I bet the libs would indeed love to do this. It would be three blue states. If you want to carve a red state out of California it would basically be Northern California excluding the Bay Area and Sacramento, and then down the Sierras into far eastern California. In theory the Central Valley is red, but that probably will only last until the next amnesty.
The rats would gain more senators than we would.
The real split in the state is coastal versus inland.
The inland North (sparsely populated to be sure) wouldn't much like to be coupled to San Francisco.
Grouping Los Angeles with the coastal counties to the north and separating it from the rest of Southern California also looks senseless.
But it's not going to happen.
Maybe a little exaggeration there? The most Republican counties are those with the fewest people. And most of the counties Trump carried didn't have anything like the margins he had in rural Texas.
But California isn't going to be cut up unless somebody can find two new Republican states somewhere. Even then, DC and PR are at the front of the line for new Democrat states.
How many Senators do you want California to have?
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