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To: Teacher317

Yea, I was probably just trolling this thread. I’m in a bad mood.

But, just as a point of correction, a citizen cannot refuse to comply with LE. They tell you to get out of the car and they have no good reason, get ready to be tased. And, perp or victim, the police can arrest anyone they want. It may turn out to have been an illegal arrest, but until it is decided by a court, they can do everything required to effectuate the arrest up to and including doing bodily harm.


63 posted on 09/01/2017 11:11:15 PM PDT by anton
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To: anton

Suppose a cop orders a strip search for drugs on one of your female relatives in full public view.

Does she have to comply?


66 posted on 09/01/2017 11:20:29 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: anton

> a citizen cannot refuse to comply with LE <

If the LEO is ordering the citizen to do something illegal - to commit a felony - then the citizen not only can refuse, he must refuse.

Then, as you say, the cop might take aggressive physical action against the citizen. But at that point the cop is no longer a cop. He’s a gangster, badge or not.


69 posted on 09/01/2017 11:23:55 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: anton

So the police can inflict bodily harm on anyone they want? What is that? God help us if you yourself are a cop...


74 posted on 09/01/2017 11:58:50 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: anton
But, just as a point of correction, a citizen cannot refuse to comply with LE.

Oh they 'can'; but it will NOT go well for them!!

103 posted on 09/02/2017 4:52:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: anton

“But, just as a point of correction, a citizen cannot refuse to comply with LE.”

One certainly can. No one is under any legal obligation to obey a cop when told to violate the law.

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137 posted on 09/02/2017 7:05:22 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: anton

“But, just as a point of correction, a citizen cannot refuse to comply with LE. They tell you to get out of the car and they have no good reason, get ready to be tased. And, perp or victim, the police can arrest anyone they want. It may turn out to have been an illegal arrest, but until it is decided by a court, they can do everything required to effectuate the arrest up to and including doing bodily harm.”

You are so wrong I wouldn’t know where to start. Cops have no right to violate the Constitutional protections we enjoy as citizens.


167 posted on 09/02/2017 11:29:32 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: anton
Yea, I was probably just trolling this thread. I’m in a bad mood.

You are an embarrassment to FR.

192 posted on 09/02/2017 2:49:36 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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