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Hmmm. I know ice cream that has better comprehension skills than this bowlfull of breyers. The founders wrote what they intended. If they wanted infringements and exclusions and caveat, they would have been included.
1 posted on 08/23/2017 9:19:16 AM PDT by rktman
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If I had to find the emanations from the penumbra of Breyer's thinking, the most generous interpretation I could come up with is that he's thinking of ye olde days of local town armories, where villages would keep the shields, swords and lances locked in a stone building to be handed out when the castle is being stormed.

In this sense, the people get to "keep" their arms, but not as their personal property at all times.

Very quaint thinking, I suppose.

-PJ

56 posted on 08/23/2017 10:51:32 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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Riiiight, Mr Beyer.

And the “right of a free press” doesn’t include radio, T.V and the internet because it’s not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution.

Not to mention, abortion, gay marriages and government sponsored healthcare!
Stupid fool!!!


61 posted on 08/23/2017 12:10:00 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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The quote said a well regulated militia... not a well armed militia... and well regulated meant one that was well attended and everyone got out and practiced... not regulated in the modern sense of the word.


63 posted on 08/23/2017 12:40:06 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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Come and take it, Judge Breyer.


65 posted on 08/23/2017 3:43:32 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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"There was a lot of concern, if you read the Federalist Papers, you will just get a feeling for it. There was a lot of concern and fear that Congress might do that and disband them, and replace the state militias after they had disbanded them with a federal army.

Exactly right.

And if the Federal Government did that we would no longer have individual sovereign states but would have a national government.

We will put in the Constitution an amendment which says Congress can't do that. It cannot call up and disband the state militias. Why? Because a well-armed militia is necessary for the security of a free state, i.e. a state militia."

He conveniently leaves out the part about “the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.

But for Breyer the people means individuals everywhere in the Constitution EXCEPT the Second Amendment.

69 posted on 08/24/2017 1:30:07 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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The H it isn't, bryer lives in a guarded, gated community. I live to dang close to Memphis. Where there are multiple shootings and stabbings every night, and is growing and moving out to the counties next to Shelby Co. A 4 yr old girl shot sitting in car dies, 3 yr old finds loaded gun, shoots self, in critical condition. Just among the innocence's being harmed. Know one seems to have commonsense any more.

I CCW and have other guns, when my grands come over ALL of them go into the gun safe, and the key in my pocket! If you don't own a gun safe, empty the gun, hide all ammo and the gun in difficult high places. And keep eagle eyes on where the kids are.

Tipton county is closest, we've had 4 murders this year. That is 4 more than we've had is 10 yrs.


70 posted on 08/24/2017 4:48:45 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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Justice Breyer,

Justice Scalia did a thorough job of scholarship on this topic, RE: District of Columbia v. Heller.

Because you do not know the correct answer, you should have copied off of his paper.


71 posted on 08/24/2017 4:54:05 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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He should have been immediately summoned before Congress, Impeached and Removed from the Bench for being Illiterate and unable to comprehend the basic english language.


72 posted on 08/24/2017 7:33:28 AM PDT by eyeamok (Idle hands are the Devil's workshop)
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So the Second Amendment is about your having the right to be drafted.

Because in Europe the crown would refuse to draft people into their military.

Is he stupid or just a liar?

74 posted on 08/24/2017 7:37:03 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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I am a militia of one.


75 posted on 08/24/2017 7:39:09 AM PDT by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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77 posted on 08/25/2017 9:44:46 AM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA!)
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What is the unorganized militia, Mr Breyer? And what was the Founders’ intent with respect to the whole of the People?


78 posted on 08/25/2017 11:31:50 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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Everyone interested in the 2nd Amendment should watch this interview with Cody Wilson, founder of Defense Distributed - which made the 3-D printed “Liberator” pistol and is currently making the Ghost Gunner - an automated milling machine that allows 80% AR receivers (i.e. paperweights) to be transformed into a ready-to-be-assembled AR lower in about 3 hours: http://reason.com/reasontv/2016/11/23/3d-gun-printer-cody-wilson-on-the-right

The interview is about 33 minutes long, but well worth your time. Among the gems in there, he talks about his goal of making people in black robes “irrelevant” with his technology.

So, people like Breyer (whom I hope retires SOON, so that Trump can replace him with someone who actually can comprehend the Constitution and understand the reasons why “We the People” are masters and not servants of the government created BY US in that Constitution) will someday possibly be able to allow Congress to outlaw guns, but because of Cody Wilson and people like him - and millions of us armed with his technology - it simply won’t MATTER what they say.

I look forward to such a world.


79 posted on 08/25/2017 11:32:08 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Here is some help for you, Breyer. It defines what the militia is.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


82 posted on 08/25/2017 12:30:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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The “militia” starts with me and the firearm next to my bed. Any other definition is just some politician’s wet dream to power over an unarmed citizenry.


83 posted on 08/25/2017 1:54:28 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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Sorry Breyer. It’s settled law. Read up on the Heller decision.


85 posted on 08/25/2017 2:38:45 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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In Breyer’s discussion he conveniently omits the very obvious words "of the people."

". . . the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

It does not say, ". . . the right of the State Militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

"No right to for an individual to keep a gun by his bed," my ass, Breyer, you Dunderheaded dolt! Learn to read!

87 posted on 10/03/2017 11:43:28 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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Stupid framers.

Everybody knows that when they used the word “PEOPLE” In the 1st, 4th, 9th and 10th amendments, it was a different PEOPLE they were talking about in the 2nd Amendment.

88 posted on 10/04/2017 12:00:18 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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