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GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore has said he doesn't believe Obama is a natural-born citizen
CNN - Politics ^ | 8/23/2017 | Andrew Kaczynski and Paul LeBlanc

Posted on 08/23/2017 3:47:18 AM PDT by GregNH

Former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, a Republican candidate for US Senate, has cast doubt on former President Barack Obama's citizenship repeatedly and as recently as December 2016, fueling the debunked "birther" movement that sought to delegitimize Obama's presidency.

Moore, who started questioning the legitimacy of Obama's citizenship back in 2008, last year told a meeting of the Constitution Party that he personally did not believe Obama was a natural-born citizen.

"My opinion is, there is a big question about that," Moore said when asked how he defines natural-born citizen as it relates to qualifications for president. CNN's KFile reviewed video from the event.


(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: al2017; bho44; birthers; husseinobama; naturalborncitizen; roymoore
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241 posted on 09/01/2017 3:18:46 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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242 posted on 09/01/2017 3:25:32 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: arrogantsob

The Founders were natural born just not natural born citizens. Would Obama be natural born if he was born in US and his different natural kind parents were citizens.


243 posted on 09/19/2017 6:48:09 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: bushpilot2

His father was not a citizen so Obama was not a Natural born citizen just a citizen via his mother.


244 posted on 09/19/2017 7:47:39 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

Remove citizen. Was Obama natural born. You were natural born. The Founders were natural born.

Was Obama born the same natural kind? What were the Founders trying to do when they used the term natural born. Their language was Middle English.

Was Obama born the same natural kind as the Founders.

“Yearnings to be with her own natural kind” William Wordsworth

She does not want to be with her UnNatural Kind. People not her kind.


245 posted on 09/20/2017 5:27:35 AM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

To be eligible, he needs to be born here of two US citizen parents.

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Ted Cruz comes to mind.......
Wasn’t Ted was born in Canada of one Citizen parent.


246 posted on 09/20/2017 5:36:54 AM PDT by deport
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To: bushpilot2

There are three types of citizen: Native born; Naturalized and Natural born. Native born would be, for example, one born of a one parent not a citizen or one born outside the country to citizens not abroad for reasons of state i.e. a diplomat or military assigned abroad.

One has to believe that the Founders believed there is a difference with Natural born being different from the other two. Why else would there have been a constitutional requirement for the Presidency.

Senators and Representatives are eligible with either of the other two since many of them were foreign born and thereby Naturalized.

These distinctions are a foreign language to the vast majority of our citizens.

There was no nation so the Founders could not have been NBC that is why the requirement did not go into effect until seven years after ratification. (I am convinced that this time period was put in to allow Alexander Hamilton’s eligibility.)

Natural is used in a different sense than normal. In other words, it does not mean that those born via C-section are ineligible nor that it means natural childbirth as opposed to artificial.

My understanding is that it means a person who is born in the country of citizens at the time of birth. This was designed to secure concerns about sovereignty and to exclude dual alligence/citizenship.

Removal of “citizen” from the requirement makes the condition meaningless and disregards the Founders’ intention altogether.


247 posted on 09/20/2017 10:04:04 AM PDT by arrogantsob
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"Were all thy children kind and natural?" Henry V "The kindly fruits of the earth" The Book of Common Prayer image
248 posted on 09/20/2017 2:01:48 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: arrogantsob
"Uniform rule of naturalization" natural born citizen image
249 posted on 09/20/2017 2:11:43 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: GregNH
I'm guessing there is an embargo on Luther Strange stories at CNN?

-PJ

250 posted on 09/20/2017 2:28:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: bushpilot2
If we accept that Obama was born in Hawaii, the fact remains that his father is reported to be Barack Obama, Sr., a native of Kenya. Therefore, he was not born to two natural born parents., In the case of Cruz, he was born in Canada of an American citizen mother and a Cuban-born father. He would therefore not be eligible for the Presidency. Then we have the case of Chester Arthur, reportedly a native of Vermont, the son of an Irish born father and non-citizen and a native born American mother. The Irish birth of his father was no secret, yet Arthur served as President. Of course, Arthur was never elected President on his own, but completed the term of the assassinated James Garfield. Due to health issues, he did not pursue the Republican nomination in 1884.

You have to wonder why the Democrats of that time did not challenge the legitimacy of his holding office, but as far as I can tell, they did not.

251 posted on 09/20/2017 2:36:42 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: deport

I’ve said as much. Also Little Marco, Mia Love, and Nikki Haley are anchor babies.


252 posted on 09/20/2017 7:02:45 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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I was clearly taught that to be considered "Natural born", both the birth mother and birth father had to be "native born" American citizens.

Not exactly. They need to be US citizens, native or naturalized.

John McCain's birth was legally determined to be Natural born because both his mother and father were 'native born' and thereby qualifying McCain as candidate despite his birth taking place outside of this country.

His parents were abroad in service to the US, Panama was a US Protectorate.

253 posted on 09/20/2017 7:14:17 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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