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Why We Should Keep The Confederate Monuments Right Where They Are
the federalist ^ | August 18, 2017 | John Daniel Davidson

Posted on 08/20/2017 2:24:46 AM PDT by Daffynition

In the wake of Charlottesville, a chorus of media outlets, political activists, and random people on the Internet have called for the removal or destruction of Confederate statues in cities across the country. They say we shouldn’t honor a bunch of racists who fought to preserve slavery, and that it’s long past time for these painful reminders of our past to come down—stow them away in a museum or smash them to pieces, just get them off the streets.

This iconoclastic impulse is a mistake, even after the harrowing events in Charlottesville last weekend. It’s a mistake not because there was anything noble about the Confederacy or its raison d’être, which was slavery, but because there is something noble—and, for a free people, necessary—about preserving our history so we can understand who we are and how we should live.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dixie; purge
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To: ETL

The modern-day left just hasn’t had the time and encouragement to get bold enough to dig up bodies - until now, thanks to the Dems and the press.


41 posted on 08/20/2017 6:24:30 AM PDT by livius
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To: IrishBrigade

Oh that’s next!


42 posted on 08/20/2017 6:26:23 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Raycpa

Exactly


43 posted on 08/20/2017 6:27:05 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: yoe
The monuments do not need to come down, just rename them. This one call MLK that one call Rosa Parks, say that this one here is Mohammad on his house, and that one there is Heavy Milk. Rename one a fabulous homosexual, and another one a transsexual. Still others could be heroes of Greenpeace or BLM. Just rename them all. In a few years who will know the difference.
44 posted on 08/20/2017 6:31:35 AM PDT by cotton (one way, one truth, the life.)
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To: central_va

45 posted on 08/20/2017 6:31:59 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Daffynition
Let's see if the Left will dare try to vandalize Stand Watie's memorial -- after all, a full-blood Cherokee can't be racist, can he? According to the Left's "logic" anyway...



Will the Left tear down Stand Watie's monument?
46 posted on 08/20/2017 6:36:02 AM PDT by Antoninus ("The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole and separately." -Solzhenitsyn)
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To: greatvikingone

It was about slavery in the sense that much of the South was, unfortunately, a slave economy and everybody in it relied on slaves for their living. The best I ever heard it said was by a young historian at a museum in New Orleans who said that even though many people in the South knew slavery was wrong and many hoped it would end, freeing the slaves was essentially like having the government come along tomorrow and tell every farmer in the country that they had to hand over their tractors, combines, trucks, etc. and somehow still continue to make a living.

So while there were certainly those who thought that blacks were inferior and that slavery was appropriate for them, there were many others who were simply part of what was a bad system for which no reasonable alternative was offered.

Obviously, one single plantation owner could not suddenly go for a wage system while those around him continued running on slave labor. So there have been scholars who feel that if something could have been done to ease the economic transition (basically, to the “wage slavery” of the industrial areas of the North), the slavery issue could have been solved.

In addition, slavery is a very inefficient economic system, since the “owner” is responsible for feeding all those mouths no matter what, and even if he feeds them badly and treats them badly, he still has to keep them healthy enough to work. And, of course, since they are not machines, there is always the danger that they will revolt, and since they were more numerous than their owners, the odds were on their side. During their slave-economy days, the Romans found that out, and although the Roman army was fierce enough to crush the rebellions, slavery as a system gradually weakened.

In fact, it had died out altogether in Europe, to be replaced by feudalism, until the Islamic raids and seizing of Europeans as to be sold as slaves reintroduced the concept of buying (originally, ransoming), selling and “owning” human beings. And then Europeans themselves began to buy Africans from the Arab slave raiders.

So, yes, free blacks owned slaves in the South and basically everybody relied on slave labor as the thing that kept the barns full and the economy running. And this, rather than some commitment to the idea of racial inferiority, was what kept slavery in place.


47 posted on 08/20/2017 6:46:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: elpadre
Noac Lan Tran

Ungrateful communist bastard....

48 posted on 08/20/2017 6:50:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Another thing that one has to admire in Lee is his response after the war. He accepted the defeat of his cause, he settled in as a good citizen of the United States, and lived a brilliant and beneficial life after that, doing much good for Virginia and the nation.

Contrast his attitude with that of the modern Dems, who can’t admit and won’t accept that they lost an election and are carrying out actions like this essentially to overturn it through sedition.


49 posted on 08/20/2017 6:52:41 AM PDT by livius
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To: DoodleDawg

LOLOL....that was funny..and astute


50 posted on 08/20/2017 7:00:27 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Daffynition

Please boycott and DO NOT use the $1.00, $20.00, $50.00, & $100.00 bills, as they depict pictures of slave owners. Gather all of these hideous forms of racism and send them to me. I will see to it that they are disposed of properly. You don’t have to thank me, I do this as a public service for my country.


51 posted on 08/20/2017 7:08:24 AM PDT by native texan
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To: Daffynition

They also are beautiful pieces of art. Soon the portraits will disappear from art galleries as the triggered fainthearts faint and foam at the mouth over seeing them on display.


52 posted on 08/20/2017 8:14:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: WebTalk

**Is Hollywood going to be called to task for such works of art about our history as a nation?**

Probably, eventually; I wouldn’t be surprised. So often, Hollyweird romanticizes history.


53 posted on 08/20/2017 9:04:32 AM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: Antoninus

Excellent article. I love that the author calls the agitators, *vigilante mobs*. To the point.


54 posted on 08/20/2017 9:11:18 AM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: native texan

:)


55 posted on 08/20/2017 9:12:15 AM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: RummyChick

Turning it into *Native American Day*. History if full of pain and ugliness. The Middle East and North Africa were mostly Christian until Islamic hordes conquered them by the sword; Taiwan was occupied by only Aborigines until the Nationalist Chinese made it their home; Shaka Zulu became legendary by dominating other African tribes; and we no longer hear of European groups such as the Alans, Goths, Frisians, and Marcomanni because they were subsumed by more powerful forces. And, to the point here, North American Indians warred with each other as well. Civilizations have been forged on blood.

So where does this leave us? With the fact that we have a civilization here, now, today, and the only question is: Is it worth preserving? If so, you preserve it. You don’t sit around orchestrating cultural suicide in the name of some kind of supposed karmic justice.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/21744-attacking-america-columbus-day-being-replaced-with-indigenous-peoples-day


56 posted on 08/20/2017 9:20:01 AM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: onedoug

In Georgia we have a state law against taking down any civil war monument or statue.


57 posted on 08/20/2017 9:21:00 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I hope it always stays that way.

“When they lay me down in that sweet Georgia ground,
Have someone play Dixie for me.”


58 posted on 08/20/2017 9:40:19 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: IrishBrigade

What about Charlottesville?


59 posted on 08/20/2017 11:12:21 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (If GOP won House, Senate and Presidency...why are the Democrats still in charge?)
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To: onedoug

Foolish liberals don’t seem to understand what will happen to this country when they remove all reminders of honor and the civil war.

They think they can win thou street violence they will simply inspire a more burial resistance that will never end. Our streets will run with blood and given their general incompetents with weapons and strategy it will probably be mostly their blood.

It was confederate Generals like Lee, who showed Americans how to lose honorably and submit to tyranny. With his memory gone, there will be no more submitting and no more honor for any of us.

This is particularly important because america is headed for 2nd civil war, or a break up if we are lucky. If we are not lucky, that war will be over our most basic rights of freedom of thought, vote and speech which the ever more intolerant left will deem us ‘too dangerous to be allowed’.

They can’t win in the war of ideas in a fair fight so they are increasingly despotic in their efforts to insure that no such fight ever exist. The result is extremism, as Conservation start to respond to being suppressed in their basic rights. One day we will rise up to reassert those natural rights of our forefather. And in the lefts desperate effort to stop us, it will be the bloodiest conflict in American history.

Where words are not free, Armies will be.


60 posted on 08/20/2017 6:11:38 PM PDT by Monorprise
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