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Uh Oh, ANTIFA: The Entire State Of Virginia Is Named After A Slave-Trader
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| Anders Hagstrom
Posted on 08/16/2017 3:32:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
Antifa clashed with white nationalists in Charlottesville, Va., over a statute of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee, but the state itself is named after the woman who brought slavery to the Americas.
Queen Elizabeth I, also known as The Virgin Queen, reigned from 1533 to 1603 and sponsored the expansion of the English slave trade into the British colonies of America and India, according to the national archives of the U.K. When Virginia gained statehood 1788, it owed its name to the late queen.
Antifa, a violent group of left-wing radicals who are known to destroy symbols they deem problematic, has yet to voice concerns about two of Americas most storied states paying homage to the Virgin Queen.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: charlottesville; royals; virginia
To: RoosterRedux
Maybe it's time to GORE the LEFT's ox !
Banning the Confederate flag is all the rage these days as leftists have brainwashed the public into claimingthat flag had something to do with the Charleston shoot.
Since were banning controversial stuff, why not ban all images, name prints and statues of Democrat KKK Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd ?
Of course you never hear a peep of the old KKK racist Robert Byrd.
He was Democrat majority leader of the Senate before he went senile, and even has his statue in the halls of Congress.
The KKK Democrat Robert Byrd lasted as Democrat Senator for over 50 years, and voted against the civil-rights-act like a typical Democrat.
Whats more offensive ?A KKK Grand Kleagle like Democrat Robert Byrd,
or a Confederate flag that was on top of the General Lee in the Dukes of Hazzard ?
Petitioning West Virginia Governor : To remove the name of the late Senator and Ku Klux Klan member Robert Byrd from the public space, road ways and government buildings (including schools).
Whats that you hear from leftist Democrats?
Thats called silence.
Democrats have the proud distinction of having the only known KKK Grand Kleagle in the Senate for over 50 years.
Democrats even voted Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd as their leader in the Senate for more than two decades.
Kleagle Robert Byrd was Democrat whip and leader in the 70s and 80s.
I guess we should remove any references to :
will have to be removed by those FASCISTS, also.
After all, they either owned slaves, or defended slave owners.
What ?
They're DemocRATS and you don't want to touch them ?
What about William Jefferson Clinton, because he DEFENDED the Ku Klux Klan and Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd ?
Doesn't any reference to him have to be removed also ?
I guess we got to be
equal to all about this matter, and apply this nonsense equally.< /sarc>
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posted on
08/16/2017 3:34:00 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: RoosterRedux
actually it was Virginia while a colony...long before 1788...
To: RoosterRedux
Read
The Lost History of Antifa by Loren Balhorn .
72 years after the triumph over Nazism, we look back to postwar Germany, when socialists gave birth to Antifa .
The origins of the word antifa shorthand for decentralized, militant street activism associated with its own aesthetic and subculture
might be murky to most readers.
Even in Germany, few know much about the popular forms of antifascist resistance that coined the term.
The movements short but inspiring political legacy proved too uncomfortable for both Cold War-era German states,
and was ignored in schools and mainstream history.
Today its legacy is almost entirely lost to the Left.
Out of the Ruins
By 1945, Hitlers Third Reich lay physically destroyed and politically exhausted.
Basic civil society ceased to function in many areas, as the Nazi grip on power faltered and regime supporters, particularly in the middle- and upper classes, realized that Hitlers final victory was a fantasy.
On the Left, many Communists and Social Democrats had either been outright murdered by the Nazis, or died in the ensuing war.
The unimaginable human and material destruction wrought by Nazi rule killed millions and turned German society upside down,
decimating the labor movement and murdering most of the countrys Jewish population.
Millions who had supported or at least acquiesced to the regime including many workers and even some former socialists now faced a new beginning in unknown political terrain.
Yet despite its failure to stop Hitler in 1933 and veritable dismantling in subsequent years, Germanys socialist labor movement and its decidedly progressive traditions
outlived Hitler in the factories of its industrial cities, and began gathering up the fragments as soon as open political activity became possible.
As historian Gareth Dale describes:
Of all sectors of the population, it was industrial workers in the major towns that showed the greatest immunity to Nazism.
Many trade unionists and socialists were able to maintain their traditions and beliefs, at least in some form, through the Nazi era.
A courageous minority, including some 150,000 Communists, took part in illegal resistance.
Wider layers avoided danger but were able to keep labour movement values and memories alive amongst groups of friends, in workplaces and on housing estates.
hese groups, oftentimes launched from the aforementioned housing estates, were generally called Antifaschistische Ausschüsse, Antifaschistische Kommittees, or the now famous Antifaschistische Aktion Antifa for short.
They drew on the slogans and orientation of the prewar united front strategy, adopting the word Antifa from a last-ditch attempt to establish a cross-party alliance between Communist and Social Democratic workers in 1932.
The alliances iconic logo, devised by Association of Revolutionary Visual Artists members Max Keilson and Max Gebhard, has been since become one of the Lefts most well-known symbols.
It's a long article, but it clearly shows that today's
Antifa organization clearly comes from
" the product of Social Democratic Party (SPD) and Communist Party (KPD) veterans ", and later was forced into merging with the
"Socialist Unity Party (SED) in the Soviet zone" of Germany.
The article end's with this :
...
Dare to Dream
Following their collapse in late 1945 and early 1946, Antifas would disappear from the German political stage for nearly four decades.
The modern Antifa with which most people associate the term has no practical historical connection to the movement from which it takes its name,
but is instead a product of West Germanys squatter scene and autonomist movement in the 1980s itself a unique outgrowth of 1968 considerably less oriented towards the industrial working class than its Italian counterpart.
The first Antifas functioned as platforms to organize against far-right groups like the National Democratic Party (NPD) in an autonomist movement still numbering in the tens of thousands of active members and capable of occupying entire city blocks in some West German metropoles.
As the far right began to rebuild in the wake of German reunification, expressed in shocking mob attacks against asylum-seekers in several eastern provinces in the early 1990s,
Antifa increasingly became a movement unto itself:a national network of dedicated antifascist groups organized into the Antifaschistische Aktion/Bundesweite Organization (AA/BO).
In some ways, these groups were the inverse of their progenitors:rather than a broad alliance of socialists and progressives from separate, ideologically distinct currents,
they were single-issue groups, expressly radical but vague and deeply heterogeneous in their specifics.
Rather than a point of departure for young activists into a broader socialist and political left,
Antifas outside of major cities are often the only political game in town, and function as a counter-cultural space with their own fashion styles, music scenes, and slang,
rather than a component of a rooted mass movement within wider society.
After the AA/BO split in 2001, Antifas continued to work locally and regionally as dedicated networks of antifascists opposing far-right demonstrations and gatherings, though many also take up other left-wing issues and causes.
What remains of the squats and infrastructure built up between the 1970s and 1990s continue to serve as important organizing and socializing spaces for the radical left,
and Antifa as movement, trope, and general political outlook will no doubt continue to exist for quite some time but it would appear that this iteration of antifascism has also exhausted its political repertoire.
The movement has shrunken continuously since the late 1990s, fragmented across ideological lines and unable to adjust its original autonomist strategies to shifting patterns of urbanization and the rise of right-populism.
Its most promising products of late the mass mobilizations against neo-Nazi marches in cities like Dresden,
as well as the formation of a new, distinctively post-autonomist current in the form of the Interventionist Left
mark a departure from rather than a revival of classical Antifa strategy.
Antifascism has surged to the fore of debates on the American left under Trumps presidency,
and many of the tactics and visual styles of the German Antifa can be seen emerging in cities like Berkeley and elsewhere.
Some argue that with the arrival of European-style neo-fascist movements on American shores, it is also time to import European Antifa tactics in response.
Yet the Antifa of today is not a product of a political victory from which we can draw our own strength, but of defeat socialisms defeat at the hands of Nazism and resurgent global capitalism,
and later the exhaustion of the autonomist movement in the wake of the neoliberal turn and the sweeping gentrification of many German cities.
Although Antifas continue to function as important poles of attraction for radicalizing youth
and guarantee that the far right rarely goes unopposed in many European countries,
its political form is of an exclusive nature, couched in its own aesthetic and rhetorical style
and inaccessible to the masses of uninitiated people getting involved in activism for the first time.
A left-wing subculture with its own social spaces and cultural life is not the same thing as a mass social movement,
and we cannot afford to confuse the two.
Of course, the Antifas experience in 1945 offers us equally few concrete lessons for how to fight a resurgent far right in the Trump era.
Looking back at the history of the socialist left is not about distilling victorious formulas to be reproduced in the twenty-first century,
but rather understanding how previous generations understood their own historical moment and built political organizations in response,
in order to develop our own (hopefully more successfully models) for today.
The Antifas in Stuttgart, Braunschweig, and elsewhere faced impossible odds,
but still sought to articulate a series of political demands and a practical organizational vision for the radicalizing workers willing to listen.
Antifas refused to capitulate to their seemingly hopeless predicament and dared to dream big.
Facing an even more fragmented and weakened left than in 1945, American antifascists will have to do the same.
Now given that small amount of information on that group,
Antifa, we must understand that the European 'right' is NOT the same as the 'right' in the United States.
The European 'right' were 'National SOCIALISTS', or
Nazis, and the European 'left' were 'Fascist SOCIALISTS'; so both were SOCIALISTS , and both were bad.
In Charlottesville, Va. we saw the 'National SOCIALISTS' in the KKK, and the 'Fascist SOCIALISTS' in the
Antifa.
Both are bad, and both do NOT support INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS or OUR CONSTITUTION.
Now think about THAT for a while !
Trump should identify them as WHAT THEY REARY ARE ...
BOTH ARE SOCIALISTS ...
and BOTH are AGAINST INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS and OUR CONSTITUTION.
Both groups should be prosecuted, and the guilty should fined
AND JAILED to the maximum that the law will allow, with no exceptions !
One group is guilty of INTENTIONAL property damage, and not remaining peaceful, and not demonstrating with proper permits.
The City Mayor is also guilty for not ENFORCING THE LAW when the demonstration FIRST got out of hand.z
He should be fined
and jailed to the maximum also !
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posted on
08/16/2017 3:35:38 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: RoosterRedux
The first slaves on any British colony didn’t arrive until 1619, well after Queen Elizabeth’s death in 1603. Britain didn’t even have any colonies in America until Jamestown was founded in 1607.
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posted on
08/16/2017 3:50:08 AM PDT
by
advance_copy
(Stand for life or nothing at all)
To: RoosterRedux
Antifa is likely backed by Obamas OFA.
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posted on
08/16/2017 3:51:47 AM PDT
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
To: Yosemitest
bookmark reply! Excellent retort. I’m saving this for further sharing against liberals
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posted on
08/16/2017 4:11:30 AM PDT
by
2nd amendment mama
(Self defense is a basic human right!)
To: RoosterRedux
Virginia is going to be hard pressed to fjnd any poltical figure from its history that wasnt a slave owner
Patrick Henry “ Give me liberty or give me death”
Slave owner
George Mason
Slave Owner
George Washington
Slave owner
Thomas Jefferson
Slave owner
Yada yada yada
Anarchy is afoot and the foolish self serving faux pious politicians like McAuliffe are encouraging it
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posted on
08/16/2017 4:17:15 AM PDT
by
silverleaf
(We voted for change, not leftover change)
To: RoosterRedux
Sorry, there are no states named Mohamud.
To: silverleaf
Franklin D. Roosevelt put Japanese Americans into prison camps in WW2 and deported Joe DiMaggio’s mother.
Woodrow Wilson embraced racist policies.
Both Democrats
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posted on
08/16/2017 4:40:35 AM PDT
by
WayneLusvardi
(It's more complex than it might seem)
To: Yosemitest
Don’t forget MLK, Jr. When a homosexual sought his counsel King advised him to see a good psychiatrist. That make him a homophobic hater. Remove his statues, and remove his name from streets, parks and buildings!
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posted on
08/16/2017 8:12:21 AM PDT
by
JimRed
( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
To: silverleaf
Juan Williams just explained why these guys’ statues are okay: they owned slaves when owning them was still legal. Robert E. Lee was willing to split the country apart in order to keep slavery alive and well. As for why it was acceptable for BLM members to attend the Right’s rally armed with bats, well, the statues were placed long after slavery was abolished. Those who want the statues to stay are racists. Although I thought he presented his views in his most reasoned manner (after making Melissa Francis cry for defending Trump), Juan is forgetting that this country still has freedom of speech.
To: advance_copy
Article was sort of disingenuous, but not exactly wrong in the end. Elizabeth did support/expand John Hawkins’ triangular trade/slave trade in the West Indies. Planning stages for colonies were being carried out (Raleigh, etc...).
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posted on
08/16/2017 10:49:52 AM PDT
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
To: rollo tomasi
This seems a stretch, as the colonies in the West Indies were all Spanish, not English, prior to 1648. Merchant ships of many kingdoms in Europe carried cargo to the Spanish colonies. And I have never heard of any pre-Jamestown planning by the Crown for slavery in English colonies, but I’d be curious if you can provide any documents of it.
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posted on
08/17/2017 12:58:25 AM PDT
by
advance_copy
(Stand for life or nothing at all)
To: advance_copy
Not according to the primary sources, lol. You know, the actual ship logs, cargo, permission by the Queen to expand operations in the West Indies, where the cargo came from, who it was sold to, where it was sold and delivered, etc...
Also I find it absurd you never heard about Walter Raleigh, Charters/private passages, heck you never heard of the Roanoke Colony, that right there suggest planning stages. This before 1585.
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posted on
08/17/2017 7:39:23 AM PDT
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
To: rollo tomasi
I know about Raleigh and the Roanoke Colony, which certainly did launch during Elizabeth I’s reign. And you’re correct that the Queen invested in Raleigh’s enterprise for that colony.
But her involvement was just an investment, and she did that mostly as a favor to Raleigh since she was impressed by him. I doubt she knew any details.
Plus, there’s no documents showing Raleigh planned on slaves there. I doubt that there were plans for slaves. None at that time knew the American colonies would prove to be a source for things like cotton/tobacco.
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posted on
08/17/2017 8:58:30 AM PDT
by
advance_copy
(Stand for life or nothing at all)
To: advance_copy
The Queen fully supported/funded Hawkins' slave trade into the West Indies. Primary sources confirm this, hence the article is somewhat correct.
I mentioned it was disingenuous due to linking African slaves/Virginia/British North American colonies (Only one which got pulverized and of course no African slaves present there)/Queen Elizabeth/.
The truth is Hawkins/African slaves/Caribbean/Queen Elizabeth.
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posted on
08/17/2017 11:27:32 AM PDT
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
To: RoosterRedux; All
What are they going to do?
Re name the entire State???
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