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5 Things That Will Happen When California Secedes from the U.S.
The American Conservative ^ | August 14, 2017 | Jared Whitley

Posted on 08/13/2017 9:34:51 PM PDT by Mafe

Any statistician or economist will tell you there is a huge world of difference between the improbable and the impossible. Brexit and the Trump presidency were both thought to be impossible, but they were proven to simply have been improbable.

And whenever I see an article about the move for California to secede from the United States (the so-called “Cal-exit”), the more I think that a vote to split is inevitable rather than improbable. As a member of the California Freedom Coalition recently told the Sacramento Bee, collecting signatures for the 2018 ballot, “We feel like this current initiative is more feasible and will hold up more to scrutiny and legal challenges.”

It is very easy to get an initiative on the ballot in California, so easy the left-leaning New Republic called it “a joke.” California made Arnold Schwarzenegger its governor. Twice. One might say passage of a secession referendum–even secession itself–might be improbable, rather than impossible, too.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calexit; california; newcalifornia; secession; statesrights; timdraper
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To: Mafe
"California is the only thing keeping the Democratic Party relevant on the national scale. Republicans have won every run-off race in 2017 and just picked up another governor. The Democratic Party is in shambles.

"Were it not for California, Trump would have won the popular vote by almost 1.5 million. Most importantly, without the California Congressional caucus in Washington, the Republican edge in the House of Representatives almost doubles."

It's looking better and better.

"Whatever remains of old California will disregard classic liberal values in favor of modern day progressivism, which is a bizarre mixture of anarchy and fascism"

41 posted on 08/14/2017 5:08:05 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: SoConPubbie

#3: Might makes right.


42 posted on 08/14/2017 5:09:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: Mafe
"But Texas and Florida don’t have Hollywood and all the coastal progressives. And, the majority of counties in both states have voted Republican in presidential elections, whereas in CA it’s been 50/50."

Yes, and America's steady flow toward self-destruction will be slowed and perhaps reversed when the steady flow of anti-American propaganda and political pressure are brought to a halt.

43 posted on 08/14/2017 5:13:09 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: Mastador1

If we can get rid of California, eliminating illegals will be easy.


44 posted on 08/14/2017 5:14:07 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: Nero Germanicus
"Texas v. White (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede."

Other Supreme Court decisions have been reversed, e.g. Dred Scott, Brown v Board of Education, et al.

45 posted on 08/14/2017 5:16:32 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: MarMema

Yeah...having the GOP control the House, Senate, and Whitehouse has been awesome so far! Look at all of the awesome things Ryan and McConnell have accomplished!


46 posted on 08/14/2017 5:18:11 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Boomer
Let the Southern Division go too.

The idea of a territory is a good one. These people have proven that they are incapable of governing themselves.

Also, don't forget the Monroe Doctrine.

47 posted on 08/14/2017 5:19:19 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Yes but....

To reclaim California, there must be the will to do so. If the consensus is that America is better off without California, there will be no effort to enforce the court decision to drag the crap back into the Union.

Disclaimer: yes, I know that musc in fact most of the geographical area is not all that bad, and is in fact good


48 posted on 08/14/2017 5:20:45 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Nero Germanicus

And the Roberts court said the government can force US citizen to buy private insurance policies. Court schmourt.


49 posted on 08/14/2017 5:22:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bert

We need to figure out how to keep California but eject the nutcases. They’re highly susceptible to propaganda; maybe we could persuade them all to move to North Korea or Venezuela or Zimbabwe.


50 posted on 08/14/2017 5:24:45 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: lightman

Sounds like a winner California! Go for it. I hope y’all get what is coming to you.


51 posted on 08/14/2017 5:27:51 AM PDT by dforest (Why iii)
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To: lodi90

If CA were to leave, illegals in their land would instantly become citizens of the new nation by proclamation of the new government. It would have to be absolutely clear that CA could never return, given that government’s policy of open borders.


52 posted on 08/14/2017 6:03:44 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Mafe

The article states that New Yorkers generate 7.8 BILLION tons of trash per year. That should be MILLION.


53 posted on 08/14/2017 6:44:01 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Savage Beast
Don'r forget if you get rid of California you also have to replace all the revenue you eliminated too, welcome to your tax increase. And it was the Federal government that was/is responsible for all those illegals we are all pissed off about.

But none of this tearjerking, buttsore complaigning means a damn thing because the Calexit has no more chance of succeeding anymore than than the Texit or other four or five states with morons pushing the movements.

54 posted on 08/14/2017 6:58:02 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Savage Beast

You are of course correct.

The way I see to resolve the issue best is to have a repeat of the Big’un.

I think the loss of San Francisco or LA to an earth quake would tip the balance.


55 posted on 08/14/2017 7:20:14 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Savage Beast

Dred Scott wasn’t overturned. It was rendered moot by the passage of the 14th Amendment. Brown v Board is still the law of the land but you are correct that any Supreme Court decision can be reversed. Its just that Texas v White has not been reversed over the last 148 years.


56 posted on 08/14/2017 8:06:06 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Mafe

Cal-Exit bump for later.....


57 posted on 08/14/2017 8:16:59 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: SamAdams76

“California is a symptom, not the disease.”

100% correct.


58 posted on 08/14/2017 8:35:23 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Nero Germanicus

Thank you for that!

Now, can you find any legislation that was passed and signed by POTUS that explicitly states the same thing?


59 posted on 08/14/2017 9:12:44 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: vooch
under CALexit, Federal military bases are likely to remain.

The essential ones will remain but the ones that exist only because of political favor won't.

60 posted on 08/14/2017 9:49:03 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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