5 Things That Will Happen When California Secedes from the U.S.

The American Conservative ^ | August 14, 2017 | Jared Whitley

[Mafe]

Any statistician or economist will tell you there is a huge world of difference between the improbable and the impossible. Brexit and the Trump presidency were both thought to be impossible, but they were proven to simply have been improbable.

And whenever I see an article about the move for California to secede from the United States (the so-called “Cal-exit”), the more I think that a vote to split is inevitable rather than improbable. As a member of the California Freedom Coalition recently told the Sacramento Bee, collecting signatures for the 2018 ballot, “We feel like this current initiative is more feasible and will hold up more to scrutiny and legal challenges.”

It is very easy to get an initiative on the ballot in California, so easy the left-leaning New Republic called it “a joke.” California made Arnold Schwarzenegger its governor. Twice. One might say passage of a secession referendum–even secession itself–might be improbable, rather than impossible, too.

[Axenolith]

Long before that there will be something like SMOD (sweet meteor of death), cleansing solar EMP (or man made), financial collapse or plague and the social parasites will be drastically reduced. We just need to make sure in the Republics rejuvenation that politicians are never allowed to dispense largess again, like the penalty for a politician proposing such a thing would be being dissolved in acid or something equally horrible...

[Axenolith]

Don’t forget, a seceded California gets to take its share (~35-40%) of the debt plus whatever unfunded obligations its population has engendered.

[vooch]

The military base issue is a red herring. The US military has military bases all over the world. Military bases in England, Germany, Italy, and Japan have been US for nearly a century.

under CALexit, Federal military bases are likely to remain.

[Nero Germanicus]

Texas v. White (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede.

[Tzimisce]

They’re not going to leave.

California has a huge budget hole they can’t pay.

They need Federal money.

[UnwashedPeasant]

"This was decided in 1865, as I recall."

This time, no one will go to war to force them to stay.

We might negotiate a divorce that give us the conservative areas, and maybe the Long Beach port.

[Boomer]

This map shows one possibility. Let the leftists have the coastal region shown in fusia pink (appropriate) on this map and that's it. We keep the rest but we break it down into smaller states so it never gets its panties in a bunch about exiting again.

By keeping the Southern Division which includes L.A. we isolate that area so it can be controlled then weed out the illegals in all the smaller states it becomes. End of the California problem.

Here's the kicker though. We don't let the coastal division leave completely; we make it a territory so it can't join with another country without first getting our permission which we would never give because it would leave us vulnerable on that section of coastline. You just know it will either want to join with Mexico or Mexico will make it but not if it's still a US territory.

Then, in a hundred years or so, we take Mexico and make it a provisional country that does not have US citizenship but is protected by our armed forces. Then after another 100 years or so and it is brought up to US standards we can make it a full territory because there will be no reason to migrate north for work but there will be reason for US citizens in the north to migrate south for various reasons including retirement in the warm climate.

That's what I call a Win, Win, Win. :)

[Secret Agent Man]

All I know for certain is this.

If it would ever occur, it will not turn out nearly as well for them as they believe it will.

[snoringbear]

“But Texas and Florida don’t have Hollywood and all the coastal progressives. And, the majority of counties in both states have voted Republican in presidential elections, whereas in CA it’s been 50/50.”

Had the Hildabeast won the election the epicenter of secession would have been Texas instead of California. While there are “hotspots” of liberalism in Texas such as the cities proper of Austin and Houston, these are insignificant as compared to California as these pockets would self-purge themselves in short order.

[MarMema]

I have been pro-Calexit for a long time and vocal here about it.

5.) Republicans will control Washington forever. California is the only thing keeping the Democratic Party relevant on the national scale.

This is awesome.

[GailA]

6) no welfare money for illegals!
7) no more Fed $$ for abortions, LBGT, bad schools, holyweird, and all those lib colleges, performing arts, Cross’s in urine.

[central_va]

Secession is not unconstitutional.

[Jim Noble]

I have a serious question that I’m too lazy to research:

When California was admitted to the Union, how much land was reserved as Federal land? And were the naval bases at San Diego and San Francisco Bay on Federal land, was the land purchased from the State of California, and who has title to it now?

[SamAdams76]

Don’t be so sanguine. Unless something is done soon, once safe red states like Texas and Georgia will turn blue on account of the big cities. California is a symptom, not the disease.

[Jim Noble]

OK, I lied, I looked it up.

AN ACT FOR THE ADMISSION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA INTO THE UNION

Whereas the people of California have presented a constitution and asked admission into the Union, which constitution was submitted to Congress by the president of the United States, by message dated February thirteenth, eighteen hundred and fifty, and which, on due examination, is found to be republican in its form of government:

Section 1
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that the state of California shall be one, and is hereby declared to be one, of the United States of America, and admitted into the Union on an equal footing with the original states in all respects whatever.

Section 2
And be it further enacted, that, until the representatives in Congress shall be apportioned according to an actual enumeration of the inhabitants of the United States, the state of California shall be entitled to two representatives in Congress.

Section 3
And be it further enacted, that the said state of California is admitted into the Union upon the express condition that the people of said state, through their legislature or otherwise, shall never interfere with the primary disposal of the public lands within its limits, and shall pass no law and do no act whereby the title of the United States to, and right to dispose of, the same shall be impaired or questioned; and that they shall never lay any tax or assessment of any description whatsoever upon the public domain of the United States, and in no case shall nonresident proprietors, who are citizens of the United States, be taxed higher than residents; and that all the navigable waters within the said state shall be common highways, and forever free, as well to the inhabitants of said state as to the citizens of the United States, without any tax, impost, or duty therefore: provided, that nothing herein contained shall be construed as recognizing or rejecting the propositions tendered by the people of California as articles of compact in the ordinance adopted by the convention which formed the constitution of that state.

[central_va]

Based on population CA would be responsible for 10% of the debt.

[central_va]

CA is a net payer of taxes. They pay more in fed taxes then they get.

[central_va]

Maybe you should find a new website NazuThugEmpire.com. It would suit you more.

[Adder]

It would be the West Virginia scenario on steroids.

Really? They will start mining coal, marrying their relatives and playing banjos?

[j\k...its early yet...]

[Vlad The Inhaler]

#6 - The USA will need to build another 1,200 miles of border fence