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Ex-CIA Director Hayden: Russia election meddling was 'most successful covert operation in history'
Yahoo News ^ | Friday, July 21, 2017 | Julia Munslow

Posted on 07/22/2017 2:34:00 PM PDT by Jyotishi

Michael Hayden, a former director of the NSA and the CIA, on Friday called Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election the "most successful covert influence operation in history."

"Frankly, [the Russian meddling] is the most successful covert operation in history," Hayden told a national security panel in response to a question from moderator Yahoo News Chief Investigative Correspondent Michael Isikoff. Hayden said the original cyberattack on the Democratic National Committee was not that surprising -- and even from an intelligence perspective, impressive.

"I just have to admit as a former director of NSA, [Russia's hack and theft of email] is honorable state espionage," Hayden said to audience laughter, speaking at the Aspen Security Conference.

Isikoff interjected, asking if the Russian dissemination of the emails through WikiLeaks should still be considered "honorable state espionage."

"If we as NSA could have an insight into … Russia through the same techniques, game on," Hayden said. "But now you make the great distinction: What the Russians then did with the information. And then that turned [it] into what we call a covert influence operation."

Hayden argued that the release of stolen Democratic emails on WikiLeaks was the Kremlin's egregious act, not the hacks to obtain the information.

"This is, at its heart, not a cyber issue. At its heart, this is a Russia issue," Hayden said. "The cyber-thing was a preliminary action in order to get some raw materials, … but that's not what made this different. That's not what made this egregious."

Isikoff asked why the U.S. government has yet to clearly delineate a "red line" when it comes to cybersecurity violations from other countries even though the cyberthreat has existed for years.

Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, also on the panel, responded that the Defense Department had issued a guideline which said attacks warrant a response if they result in loss of life or serious economic damage.

"The truth is the technology and the techniques that can be used have actually evolved more rapidly than our thinking about it," Chertoff said. "The value of norms would be it would start to create a basis for law-abiding countries to know when they can respond to a cyber act as if it were an act of war."

The U.S. lacks a standard of proof, which makes it difficult to prove who's responsible for a cyber attack, Chertoff said.

"If we confront the Russians, their response is, ‘Well, you don't have 100 percent proof, so we reject it,'" Chertoff said. "We have to establish a consensus about how much is enough."

Isikoff then pivoted to discuss the Syrian refugee crisis, which he said has resulted in 4.9 million refugees in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey, noting that former FBI agent Ali Soufan called it "the greatest humanitarian disaster of our lifetime."

National Counterterrorism Center Director Nick Rasmussen, another panel participant, said he wouldn't want to draw "a straight line" connection between someone being displaced by the Syrian civil war and that person becoming a potential recruit for terrorists.

But Rasmussen said that Soufan's description still holds. "First and foremost, it's a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions, but it does have a long-term security piece to it that we're going to be managing for a number of years," he said.

The counterterrorism expert also said the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah poses a threat to the U.S. The Iranian-backed organization is recognized by the intelligence community as one of the most capable terrorist groups in the world, with access to technology and state sponsorship, he said.

But FBI arrests of individuals with ties to Hezbollah in the U.S. suggests that there's a presence of Hezbollah operatives in the homeland, Rasmussen said.

"We've known they look to lay infrastructure in all parts of the world to give itself options, to develop a playbook," Rasmussen said.

A bipartisan group of lawmakers introduced legislation in the House and Senate on Thursday that would increase sanctions on Hezbollah for its actions in Syria and near the Israeli border.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: aspen; cia; elections; espionage; hacking; hayden; hezbollah; hillary2016; nsa; russia; russia2016election; russianhacking; syria; trmprussia; trump; trumprussia; wikileaks
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To: Jyotishi

It was successful street the fact when the rats started using it to cover up their crimes of spying on Trump


81 posted on 07/22/2017 3:44:22 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Jyotishi

The demoncrats, for all intents & purposes, are the ideological foot soldiers of the old soviet union here in America. They are the torchbearers of that murderous flame called communism.

There’s your foreign influence.


82 posted on 07/22/2017 3:44:24 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Chewbarkah

There is new info that has just seen the light of day. Ken starr memo that says a sitting president can be indicted...fascinating this has been hidden all these years


83 posted on 07/22/2017 3:46:48 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Jyotishi

Sorry, Mike...ever heard of Enigma?


84 posted on 07/22/2017 3:47:51 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Vaquero

“This is all part of the bloodless coup.”

The coup maybe bloodless but the aftermath won’t be.


85 posted on 07/22/2017 3:48:36 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Jyotishi

Putin wanted Trump to win? How do you figure? Why wouldn’t you think that Hillary would have assured him that after her election she’d have “more flexibility”?


86 posted on 07/22/2017 3:49:09 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: erkelly

Used to be you could report that kind of foreign duress to the local consulate but I had to fill out a stupid form online at the FBI.


87 posted on 07/22/2017 3:49:35 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: RummyChick

Apparently this memo was discovered by nyt reporter using an FOIA request. Not tested in court. Its a long memo. Why didnt we know this with clinton


88 posted on 07/22/2017 3:51:15 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Jyotishi

It was obviously quite successful. It was so successful that they left absolutely no evidence of it.


89 posted on 07/22/2017 3:51:16 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: Jyotishi

Hayden and these other spooks are laying the intellectual justification for a coup d’état. That’s what’s going on here. These a**holes hardly showed any indignation when China and Russia hacked into actual government data systems, but hacking the DNC is supposed to be thought of as the crime of the century.


90 posted on 07/22/2017 3:51:53 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Jyotishi

PROOF OF THAT BS FALS NARRATIVE......?

Trump should have Sessions appoint a second special prosecutor to investigate Seth Rich’s death & the DNC server,....it could be broadened to include Clinton fundraising crimes, unmasking for political espionage purposes, the Lynch/Clinton Obstruction of Justice, Mulluer & Comey’s ties to the DNC....


91 posted on 07/22/2017 3:53:05 PM PDT by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch (His Justice will not wait forever.....God, please preserve the Republic)
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To: Steve_Seattle

+1


92 posted on 07/22/2017 3:54:43 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: InterceptPoint

I used to design exhibits for the Bicycle Casino back in the 1990s.


93 posted on 07/22/2017 3:54:56 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Jyotishi

SUBPOENA HIM to tell WHAT EXACTLY THEY DID!!


94 posted on 07/22/2017 3:58:13 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Jyotishi

And we’re supposed to believe “the Russians” didn’t want the democratic-socialist to win?


95 posted on 07/22/2017 3:58:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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To: Jyotishi

So, he can tell us how many votes were changed by the Russians, then?
NO? What? No votes changed?

So...what did they do differently from what the US has been doing for decades in other countries?

Just Sayin’...


96 posted on 07/22/2017 3:58:46 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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To: Jyotishi
"the most successful covert influence operation in history."

Whatever happened to their claims that there is no evidence that the hacking had any effect on the election? If the operation had no provable impact on anything, how can they call it the most successful operation in history?

This is worrisome; it sounds like they know something that we don't, that they are in the deep state loop, and that Mueller is going to go after Trump until he is forced out of office. They know that we are in the first stages of a coup d'état.
97 posted on 07/22/2017 3:58:56 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Electric Graffiti

I’m ready


98 posted on 07/22/2017 4:00:02 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

So there are 2 Freepers who have heard of Bell Gardens. I doubt if there are 3.


99 posted on 07/22/2017 4:00:21 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: Jyotishi

Isikoff interjected, asking if the Russian dissemination of the emails through WikiLeaks should still be considered “honorable state espionage.”

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The panel was all deepstate liars. I don’t believe Russia gave Wikileaks the emails. They all run with the same narrative.


100 posted on 07/22/2017 4:00:24 PM PDT by boycott
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