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Ex-CIA Director Hayden: Russia election meddling was 'most successful covert operation in history'
Yahoo News ^ | Friday, July 21, 2017 | Julia Munslow

Posted on 07/22/2017 2:34:00 PM PDT by Jyotishi

Michael Hayden, a former director of the NSA and the CIA, on Friday called Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election the "most successful covert influence operation in history."

"Frankly, [the Russian meddling] is the most successful covert operation in history," Hayden told a national security panel in response to a question from moderator Yahoo News Chief Investigative Correspondent Michael Isikoff. Hayden said the original cyberattack on the Democratic National Committee was not that surprising -- and even from an intelligence perspective, impressive.

"I just have to admit as a former director of NSA, [Russia's hack and theft of email] is honorable state espionage," Hayden said to audience laughter, speaking at the Aspen Security Conference.

Isikoff interjected, asking if the Russian dissemination of the emails through WikiLeaks should still be considered "honorable state espionage."

"If we as NSA could have an insight into … Russia through the same techniques, game on," Hayden said. "But now you make the great distinction: What the Russians then did with the information. And then that turned [it] into what we call a covert influence operation."

Hayden argued that the release of stolen Democratic emails on WikiLeaks was the Kremlin's egregious act, not the hacks to obtain the information.

"This is, at its heart, not a cyber issue. At its heart, this is a Russia issue," Hayden said. "The cyber-thing was a preliminary action in order to get some raw materials, … but that's not what made this different. That's not what made this egregious."

Isikoff asked why the U.S. government has yet to clearly delineate a "red line" when it comes to cybersecurity violations from other countries even though the cyberthreat has existed for years.

Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, also on the panel, responded that the Defense Department had issued a guideline which said attacks warrant a response if they result in loss of life or serious economic damage.

"The truth is the technology and the techniques that can be used have actually evolved more rapidly than our thinking about it," Chertoff said. "The value of norms would be it would start to create a basis for law-abiding countries to know when they can respond to a cyber act as if it were an act of war."

The U.S. lacks a standard of proof, which makes it difficult to prove who's responsible for a cyber attack, Chertoff said.

"If we confront the Russians, their response is, ‘Well, you don't have 100 percent proof, so we reject it,'" Chertoff said. "We have to establish a consensus about how much is enough."

Isikoff then pivoted to discuss the Syrian refugee crisis, which he said has resulted in 4.9 million refugees in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey, noting that former FBI agent Ali Soufan called it "the greatest humanitarian disaster of our lifetime."

National Counterterrorism Center Director Nick Rasmussen, another panel participant, said he wouldn't want to draw "a straight line" connection between someone being displaced by the Syrian civil war and that person becoming a potential recruit for terrorists.

But Rasmussen said that Soufan's description still holds. "First and foremost, it's a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions, but it does have a long-term security piece to it that we're going to be managing for a number of years," he said.

The counterterrorism expert also said the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah poses a threat to the U.S. The Iranian-backed organization is recognized by the intelligence community as one of the most capable terrorist groups in the world, with access to technology and state sponsorship, he said.

But FBI arrests of individuals with ties to Hezbollah in the U.S. suggests that there's a presence of Hezbollah operatives in the homeland, Rasmussen said.

"We've known they look to lay infrastructure in all parts of the world to give itself options, to develop a playbook," Rasmussen said.

A bipartisan group of lawmakers introduced legislation in the House and Senate on Thursday that would increase sanctions on Hezbollah for its actions in Syria and near the Israeli border.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: aspen; cia; elections; espionage; hacking; hayden; hezbollah; hillary2016; nsa; russia; russia2016election; russianhacking; syria; trmprussia; trump; trumprussia; wikileaks
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To: Jyotishi

He seems to be conveniently unaware of the mischief manufactured by the long march initiated by Herbie Marcuse and Co....

[The Architects of Western Decline: A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTmNWY0ZPfM&t=18m


121 posted on 07/22/2017 4:29:17 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: cradle of freedom

Yep


122 posted on 07/22/2017 4:31:15 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: larryjohnson

I think Hayden is a slimy POS, but that is just my opinion.


123 posted on 07/22/2017 4:35:30 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Jyotishi

Isikof says that the Russians gave the email contents to Wikileaks. That’s an assumption..show me the proof..or at least a credible sign of dot connecting, not an assumption or opinion.


124 posted on 07/22/2017 4:41:14 PM PDT by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: 4integrity

Yup...the GOPe is of no help.


125 posted on 07/22/2017 5:10:06 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Jyotishi

Michael Isikoff is the NEWSWEAK “Koran in the Toilet” writer.


126 posted on 07/22/2017 5:10:43 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Jyotishi
Hayden argued that the release of stolen Democratic emails on WikiLeaks was the Kremlin's egregious act

Oh come now! If the kremlin had really hacked the DNC server, Seth Rich would be alive today, and many of us know that!

127 posted on 07/22/2017 5:23:19 PM PDT by Dustoff45 (Pass the spicy catsup. We've got Trump now.)
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To: Jyotishi
Hayden argued that the release of stolen Democratic emails on WikiLeaks was the Kremlin's egregious act, not the hacks to obtain the information.

I don't know of any serious analyst who thinks the release of DNC and John Podesta emails on WikiLeaks had the slightest bearing on the election. What it did was give the Democrats a talking point and smokescreen for their refusal to accept the outcome of the election.

128 posted on 07/22/2017 5:30:30 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: Jyotishi

Hayden was the most dangerous man in public office for years ... a neocon warmonger like McCain.


129 posted on 07/22/2017 5:32:17 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: RummyChick

Interesting that someone was scrutinizing ancient Ken Starr archives so they could tell us about this memo, as if it were ore than an untested argument. It is obviously invalid, since otherwise every president could be harassed and coerced by prosecutors from the opposing party, destroying the office. Presidents must be impeached and if found guilty removed from office by the process provided by the Constitution. Ex-Presidents can be indicted.


130 posted on 07/22/2017 5:38:05 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Jyotishi

Ex-CIA Director Hayden: Russia election meddling was ‘most successful covert operation in history’

He’s right. They even managed to do it leaving no evidence at all. Putin is a genius.


131 posted on 07/22/2017 5:42:03 PM PDT by suthener
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then how did Clinton win the popular vote?...this globalist nut is beside himself with Trumps win.


132 posted on 07/22/2017 5:42:43 PM PDT by basalt
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To: Jyotishi

Hes such a jackass
America did not need Russia or Wilileaks to determine that Hillary Clinton was an arrogant incompetent phony cheating wobbly headed robotic unemotional shrill no- solutions loser
She called average middle class voters deplorables and we returned her sentiment


133 posted on 07/22/2017 5:46:31 PM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: Grimmy

This putz is not an American patriot...he is more likely an Obama supporter...treason master...


134 posted on 07/22/2017 5:46:38 PM PDT by Stayfree (LIBERALISM & STUPIDITY ARE BOTH INCURABLE MENTAL DISEASES OFTEN FOUND TOGETHER!)
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To: Chewbarkah

I haven’t read it .its over 50 pages out making The case by the special prosecutor.I think it hinges on separation of powers

I dont understand why this didnt come out with clinton.


135 posted on 07/22/2017 5:53:47 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

Tribe agrees with special prosecutor analysis. Lets see if turley weighs..I bet he will


136 posted on 07/22/2017 5:59:24 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Jyotishi
"Frankly, [the Russian meddling] is the most successful covert operation in history,"

Whoopydoo. They still couldn't get her elected.
137 posted on 07/22/2017 6:02:54 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Robert DeLong

Bingo! So many questions after that idiot said that.


138 posted on 07/22/2017 6:03:34 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: RummyChick

Ronald rotunda wrote the memo to Starr. He was a conservative.


139 posted on 07/22/2017 6:04:25 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: LegendHasIt

It has become unquestionably clear that these fools bubble up into positions of power and authority in this government. There are far too many of these nimrods in our government.


140 posted on 07/22/2017 6:07:59 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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