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Our Civilization Deserves to Fail
Townhall.com ^ | July 15, 2017 | John Hawkins

Posted on 07/15/2017 5:03:35 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Bryanw92
Lots of good content here. Thank you.

First, I disagree that the present-day comparison with history is null and void. At almost every step along the way of this American Experiment, there was a minority of rabble punching above their weight in terms of noise and violence. Ultimately, someone had to push back, and historically the push back won.

And it's happening now. Now, I DO agree that one year ago, it was looking grim. Then Trump won, and now I see an emboldened citizenry pushing back. Yea, yea, I know...we still have MSNBC ratings rising, universities with anti-freedom rules, and the like. But now we have Deplorables staging anti-statist protests. I saw an incredible video of black citizens picketing a Maxine Waters town hall. This was NOT happening until recently. Why? Because it looked like the Thelma and Louise option was all that was left.

As for what I am doing, well, I never surrender my position. Let's just say Operation DoodleBob is up and away and yielding benefits.

41 posted on 07/15/2017 7:16:23 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I have some suggestions.


42 posted on 07/15/2017 7:22:50 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: Kaslin

Bookmark


43 posted on 07/15/2017 7:25:41 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: DoodleBob
I agree almost completely with your assessment. I see this nation now as 1/3 conservatives, 1/4 liberals, and the rest Kardashian-watchers.

The challenge is that the libs have oozed into all the corners of power: academia, bureaucracies, mass media, even churches. Those are powerful opinion-shapers and the Kardashian set is easily led. The perception is that the libs are far more numerous than they are. Like the shield-beaters of ancient armies, they make a lot of noise and convince the foe that their numbers are legion.

Trump and the Deplorables are challenging that misperception, and reducing the noisemakers to their rightful numbers. Certainly there's hope.

But it's becoming less and less likely that we'll return to a Great America without a cataclysmic upheaval. And once the shooting starts, it's anyone's guess who will emerge the victor.

44 posted on 07/15/2017 7:29:43 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: DaveA37

>>If the liberal “obstructionists” were out of the way, perhaps Pres. Trump could get a good start on draining the swamp that is so badly needed. Problem is even those who are supposed to be on his political side are fighting him tooth and nail which I believe, is because they too are part of the swamp dwellers.

Well and truly stated. The President’s adversaries in his own party are the absolute worst of the swamp dwellers, and until we have another political party to oppose the Uniparty anti-Americans masquerading as Republicans, the swamp will NEVER be drained.


45 posted on 07/15/2017 7:33:05 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Ransomed
I have a friend who is a lawyer. During the post-election recount nonsense last year he did a little research and confirmed that he's registered to vote in FOUR states. All of them were legitimate at different times in his life. He grew up in one state, went to college in a second, went to law school in a third, and now lives in a fourth ... and he dutifully registered to vote every place he lived. He voted once last year, and nobody voted illegally in his name in the other three states.

When I see statistics showing low voter turnout, I often wonder if they're counting someone like my friend as one voter and three non-voters even though he's only one person.

46 posted on 07/15/2017 7:34:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: DoodleBob

>>As for what I am doing, well, I never surrender my position.

Of course, Keep doing what you are DOING—if you are physically doing something. But are you doing things that the other side recognizes as action? As an example, picking up the trash in the park after an Occupy rally is not action. It is submission. It is actually serving them and the government that would not stop them (perhaps by denying a permit because they trashed the park last time and then arresting them for protesting without a permit this time).

The election of Trump does make things look better, but so did the election of GWB. Remember how great it was when he defeated Gore. Progressivism was halted. The AGW scam was stopped. But, no. It inflamed the Progs. It caused the Saudis to launch 9/11. It gave the military-industrial complex an endless war to fight. It led to Obama.

Not saying that the election of GWB was bad, but we just don’t know how to hold ideological ground anymore. We are getting better at it since Trump taught us that its OK to win and its great to get in their faces as we do win. But, even here on FR, I have arguments with people who think that we need to stop with the tweets and name-calling and take that high road again.

We need to hear about the specific successes of Operation DoodleBob and not just vague references to what it is accomplishing. Someone once said something like America is a great friend and fearsome foe. WE need to be that fearsome foe to the Progressives. If we are going to do a counter-protest, it needs to strike fear into them.


47 posted on 07/15/2017 7:36:07 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Ransomed

>>We haven’t had even 65% eligible voter turnout for a national election for 100+ years, yet the state is involved in our lives more than ever.

The latter follows the former like day follows night.


48 posted on 07/15/2017 7:36:59 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Truth29

The purging will be done during the Tribulation and what will emerge will the the Millennial Kingdom.


49 posted on 07/15/2017 7:37:32 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Kaslin

John Hawkins is probably depressed.


50 posted on 07/15/2017 7:37:48 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Kaslin

Our Civilization Deserves to Fail

There is a ton of truth to that statement. Look around and one can see the deterioration that exists and the forces that are furthering that deterioration. Both the GOPe and the Anti-American Dems have become so selfish and aristocratic that commoners do not count any more. They are just there to fund the elites. America is FUBAR!


51 posted on 07/15/2017 7:38:47 AM PDT by JayAr36 (The Aristocrats of the Senate need to be brought back to earth. They are NOT SPECIAL!)
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To: IronJack

>> They’re rebels in search of a cause and in search of something to give their lives meaning.

The country can easily solve that problem and many others by bringing back the military draft.


52 posted on 07/15/2017 7:53:13 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Kaslin

https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.wordpress.com/


53 posted on 07/15/2017 8:00:04 AM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: Stentor
My civilization doesn’t deserve to fail. Is his the same as mine? Maybe he needs a spine an an attitude adjustment.

Your disagreement with the author is semantical.

Look around. About half the people in this country are bringing our civilization to the brink of failure. If that doesn't change, our civilization will fail.

54 posted on 07/15/2017 8:09:57 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Kaslin
If it deserves to fall, it will.

The decadent Left (a redundancy, of course) deserves to fall and will.

Healthy, ascendant America does not deserve to fall.

The question is whether or not the decadent Left will drag healthy, ascendant America into hell along with itself. This remains to be seen.

President Trump says no; not without a fight. Pray that he succeeds!

55 posted on 07/15/2017 8:17:46 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: DoodleBob
By most accounts, at the time of the Revolution, 20% were Loyalists, 33-45% were Patriots, and the rest were ballast. If you replace Loyalist with statist, and Patriots with Deplorables, we are right where we started. AND YET...I see a future.

At the time of the revolution, the "ballast" people either didn't have any opinion at all or they generally took the opinion of the more involved people, who were as you say 20% Loyalist and 40% Patriots.

Today, the "ballast" people, at election time, fall in line the the Media propaganda.

That's the difference.

56 posted on 07/15/2017 8:21:14 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Your disagreement with the author is semantical.

An arithmetic argument that some indeterminate number of humans in a population engaging in some amorphous/undefined behavior that doesn't take into account reaction from another part of the population is determinative of civilizational collapse is interesting. I'd like to see you model that. Should be as easy as climate change modeling.

57 posted on 07/15/2017 8:41:36 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Kaslin

He doesn’t even touch on the real problem - the poison of postmodernism being force fed to our kids at schools.

That’s where the deconstruction of our country and culture started, continues and is spreading at an alarming rate out in the general population.


58 posted on 07/15/2017 9:15:15 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48

But the “educators” are doing it “for the children”. The only obvious answer is to send them more money!!!


59 posted on 07/15/2017 9:20:46 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: AndyJackson

I for one am not willing to licence even one American combat death to naifs, idiots and fools.

hear hear...


60 posted on 07/15/2017 9:27:03 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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