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Powerball ticket sales end tonight, Mega Millions Friday, due to state budget crisis (IL)
WGN9 ^ | JUNE 28, 2017 | SEAN LEWIS AND COURTNEY GOUSMAN

Posted on 06/28/2017 7:41:14 AM PDT by Leaning Right

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To: stars & stripes forever

“Something has to give. I pray we Illinois property owners won’t be forced to pay the bill.”

I think the key here is the SCOTUS. What we can’t have is some MFers in black robes making illogical decisions and forcing them on the states. I know that in the recent municipal bankruptcies here in CA, the bankruptcy courts stated that the entities could give the PE pensions a “haircut” as part of the restructuring. Unfortunately, the governments involved elected to forego that avenue, and as a consequence really didn’t fix their budget problems and will most likely be bankrupt again in the very near future.


41 posted on 06/28/2017 8:44:25 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: cgbg
It would be better to make your move before such a hint occurs. Your property value will drop pretty hard in the market if that new liability was a sure thing.
42 posted on 06/28/2017 8:49:32 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Dilbert San Diego

In Canada, provincial lotteries are not taxable. Simply, it’s a game of chance 1 in near 14 million for Ontario’s 6/49 lottery. But Stock profits are taxable as income but not lotteries. Is there a difference between “winning versus income”?


43 posted on 06/28/2017 8:54:41 AM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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To: cgbg

Connecticut, unlike Illinois, is close enough to Wall Street and the mass media companies in New York City that the state won’t go down very soon. Indeed, some of the richest counties in the USA are in southwestern Connecticut within commute range of Manhattan itself.


44 posted on 06/28/2017 8:58:34 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Leaning Right

The winner would be wise to take the one lump sum payout before there’s not left in the bucket.

Lemme guess, they’ll be whining for the rest of us to bail them out. Trump and the congresscritters better not do it.


45 posted on 06/28/2017 9:22:08 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Vince Ferrer

http://www.chicagotribune.com/ct-illinois-pension-law-court-ruling-20150508-story.html


46 posted on 06/28/2017 9:23:04 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

The IL state constitution is clear that pension obligations must be paid.

That is the legally correct ruling. Doesn’t mean it is possible.


47 posted on 06/28/2017 9:33:12 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Dilbert San Diego

IL stopped paying the lottery commission, and started taking the payouts for themselves.

That is why Powerball is pulling out. Which is kind of funny in a way. Powerball has a rather, shall we say, interesting history not not paying its obligations to the states on time.


48 posted on 06/28/2017 9:35:51 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: vette6387

>> Bankruptcy is the only way we are going to get the RATs out of our state governments.<<

You can’t get rid of democRATs in California with dynamite. Too many of the taker class (especially illegal voters which are limited in Federal welfare but not California welfare) and rich liberals who really aren’t affected.

You would have to empty the state and then let everyone come back one by one after passing a values test.


49 posted on 06/28/2017 9:58:53 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Civil Rights movement compared content of their character to skin color and chose the latter)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Doesn’t the lottery have money from ticket sales to pay prizes? Isn’t it structured so that a certain amount is paid to winners, while the “house” or state keeps the rest?

From what I understand, it's not necessarily a lack of money that stops payments greater than $25k. It has to do with statutory authority to make any payment greater than that amount. Absent a budget, they cannot pay because the law does not allow it.

50 posted on 06/28/2017 10:45:35 AM PDT by zeugma (The Brownshirts have taken over American Universities.)
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To: vette6387

States cannot go bankrupt. For insight as to what comes next, Greece might be an example to follow.


51 posted on 06/28/2017 2:15:32 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: bgill
The winner would be wise to take the one lump sum payout

What happens to past winners who took their winnings through annual installments? Uh, oh. Whole lot of lumpin' goin' on out there...

52 posted on 06/28/2017 4:01:23 PM PDT by Libloather (Trivial Pursuit question - name the first female to lose TWO presidential elections!)
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To: Jacquerie

“States cannot go bankrupt.”

I know that’s what it says in the Constitution, but when Illinois runs out of money, irrespective of what it says, the state will be functionally broke. I mean do you think anyone will sell them anything not knowing when or how they will be paid? I seriously doubt that even a black-robed turd, will be able to “force” the state to tax the citizens, because everyone knows where he lives. Anyway, it’s going to be “interesting” when Illinois goes tits up!


53 posted on 06/28/2017 6:46:37 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
Much of the blame can be set at the foot of scotus. IL is only the first to fall.

In its 1964 Reynolds v. Sims decision, scotus created a baloney one-man, one-vote standard for state legislative districts, including state senates. As a result, Chicago came to overwhelm Springfield and dominate the state.

I wrote of the matter here, and here.

54 posted on 06/29/2017 1:50:57 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Leaning Right
While the Illinois lottery will continue to hold drawings, anyone who wins more than $25,000 dollars will have their prize payments delayed.

That restriction makes Illinois lottery tickets even more worthless than they were when the state was solvent.

DO NOT BUY ILLINOIS LOTTERY TICKETS!

Kick the state's last revenue source out from under it, and let it swing!

55 posted on 06/29/2017 2:20:07 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: JohnLongIsland
Next month => State pensions

Let Social Security substitute for same.

56 posted on 06/29/2017 2:24:13 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Leaning Right

Dandy Don is warming up to sing for Illinois...

57 posted on 06/29/2017 2:29:18 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Jacquerie
“In its 1964 Reynolds v. Sims decision, scotus created a baloney one-man, one-vote standard for state legislative districts, including state senates.”

This ruling has had the same deleterious effect here in California. It has made the voting power of the large cities overpowering as well. Plus, we have a situation where “total census populations” are used to craft legislative districts resulting in more districts residing in the large cities. The large numbers of non-citizens that are counted and used to create the urban legislative districts are exacerbate the problem of too much legislative power being given in those areas.

58 posted on 06/29/2017 5:14:27 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

The more democracy the better! /s


59 posted on 06/29/2017 5:45:49 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Leaning Right

Wait a minute, wasn’t the MegaM winner in IL?


60 posted on 08/13/2017 1:35:51 AM PDT by GnuThere
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