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To: Impy; LS; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; ...

I haven’t spent immersed in politics for a 4th decade running to come to such conclusions lightly. Running crap campaigns are one thing, collusion is quite another, and this was stone cold collusion. I absolutely believe both parties (specifically the establishment) collude with one another and have for some time. It’s a farce that has the public believing they have a choice in who’s running the government when it’s already been decided. Very similar to the IL Combine, but on a much larger scale.

We were all set to go through that same joke again last year, with El Jebbe as the designated loser against Hillary and Trump upended the whole shebang. The Deep State is the true enemy, and it remains firmly in control of both parties, and until they and their operatives are deposed, we can and will just as easily retreat to the pre-Trump pre-chosen fixed contests.

And I’ll add this as well, Zero was the most defeatable candidate the Democrats have EVER put up. If McQueeg or Slick Willard wanted to defeat him, they could’ve done so easily. They didn’t because they didn’t want to. Their enemy is Conservatism and they only employ cutthroat tactics against Conservatives and Conservatism. Think Willard can’t run a vicious and brutal race ? Watch what he did to Jim Rappaport in 2002 and Sarah Palin in 2008. If he had treated Zero like he did those two, he’d have won in a landslide.

Like I said, it’s all a big joke, and the joke is on America and its citizens. Deep State gets to keep their power and control and $$, we pissants get stuck with the debt and living under the spiraling decay.


41 posted on 06/27/2017 9:28:08 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Absent Trump, Rubio or Cruz would have been nominated, probably Rubs who the establishment would have much preferred.

Jerm (new, like?) was going nowhere, and I don’t believe for a minute that he would have succeeded if not for Trump’s attacks on him, he wouldn’t have even been the top a-hole candidate, Gay’s itch still would have eclipsed him, and “Stay Puft” wasn’t far behind.

What did Willard do to Palin in 2008? Bad mouth her after being passed over?


45 posted on 06/27/2017 10:24:28 PM PDT by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Totally agree that Minion could have beTen Zero. Don’t know about McTurd. He was solidly beaten in the EC and lost by more than 5m votes. But he did lead in polls till he suspended his campaign.


48 posted on 06/27/2017 11:29:41 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy

I think the truth, as is often in life, is somewhere in between.

We NOW KNOW that both romney and mccain are uniparty POS. They’ve proven that OVER and OVER to the point of near treason.

Did they want to lose? I don’t think so, but not because of noble reasons of saving the country.

Just more power, power, power.

FieldMarshaldj brings up some quite valid points. And you, impy, do point out that running for president is utterly grueling.

Neither men came out swinging conservative baseball bats, because they don’t believe in conservatism.

As far as wanting to win or lose, it’s really a mute point because as fieldmarshal says, it’s one big happy uniparty so mccain/romney would still be part of the oligarchy either way.

Without the spoils of the 200k speeches an ex president gets to make.


50 posted on 06/27/2017 11:33:42 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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