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1 posted on 06/20/2017 8:43:40 AM PDT by Cecily
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Lose a few sailors or flood and sink the entire ship? Would the Enemy Media be happier if she had been sunk and all souls were lost?

Probably.

*SPIT*


2 posted on 06/20/2017 8:45:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Cecily

When I was 12, I almost drowned. The next thing I knew I was on the deck with the lifeguard. I believe you pass out from the stress. That’s what seems to have happened in my experience.


3 posted on 06/20/2017 8:46:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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“...died on the USS Fitzgerald when it sank may...”

Huh?


4 posted on 06/20/2017 8:47:51 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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My heart and prayers go out to those who died in this horrific incident, and to those that had to make the decision and/or to implement the action to close the water-tight hatches to preserve the vessel.

That just has to be about one of the hardest things to order or to do.

5 posted on 06/20/2017 8:48:29 AM PDT by garyb (What if you can't trust the voice in your head?)
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on the USS Fitzgerald when it sank?..........


8 posted on 06/20/2017 8:50:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Unless you eat The Bread of Life, you are toast!.......................)
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I agree with Travis McGee:

Really seems like “Nautical Jihad”

Why the insane U-turn...?

Cuz it was DELIBERATE.


9 posted on 06/20/2017 8:52:21 AM PDT by gaijin
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It is a great pity to lose them. But ships and sailors are made for that eventuality.


10 posted on 06/20/2017 8:53:48 AM PDT by lurk
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As a sailor, this is an ever present danger.

Always.

In the time I spent at sea, being attached airwing, I was fortunate enough to spend the majority of it in areas such as the flight deck and hangar bay where the possibility of being trapped in a flooding compartment was less, but I assure you, I felt that advantage acutely over the ship’s company who labored far below decks.

Those guys have guts.


11 posted on 06/20/2017 8:56:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals are in a state of constant cognitive dissonance, which explains their mental instability.)
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In peacetime the loss of a ship is a great tragedy but it's not worth the cost of seven lives. I would have let them out of that berthing compartment even if the ship were to sink as a result of that action. Court martial me if you want. I say this as someone with many years of ocean going naval experience.

In wartime those sailors would have to face drowning but the situations are different.

14 posted on 06/20/2017 9:01:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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While silence isn’t golden, at least Trump isn’t telegraphing his next move.

Once the joint chiefs conclude their investigation and the facts are known by those who need to know (not like the 0bama regime where they were leaked to the MSM and the #of troops, seals, marines, missles to be used), the response will be a surprise, out of nowhere. I trust him. Silence sucks, but it won’t be long.


20 posted on 06/20/2017 9:09:04 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We must never shut up. Covfefe: A great dish served piping hot!)
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"SAVE THE SHIP" is the first order of business when it comes to damage control. Everyone onboard understands this (though admittedly, very few sailors in today's Navy have had to actually face it).

Only after all efforts have been exhausted and it is clear the ship will founder do you consider saving your own skin.

21 posted on 06/20/2017 9:10:52 AM PDT by Drew68
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A moron wrote the article.The ship did not sink.These writers don’t know squat.Most are little pajama boys.


23 posted on 06/20/2017 9:14:02 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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I don't if this plot and time line are accurate.


39 posted on 06/20/2017 9:36:17 AM PDT by deport
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FWIW on local radio they reported a mother of a sailor on it
said that her son told her that he kept diving down to try to get shipmates.


40 posted on 06/20/2017 9:37:44 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord
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Sadly, that’s the entire reason why waterproof hatches exist


46 posted on 06/20/2017 9:44:52 AM PDT by PGR88
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Saving the ship must always be the first priority.

This is the hard truth of the military. There are some things that take precedence over the life of the individual soldier, sailor or airman.

That is why the sailor tragically sealed in the flooding compartment is a cliché found in every navy movie ever filmed.


49 posted on 06/20/2017 9:51:55 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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A large breach near the bow while the ship is moving can act as a scoop and cause massive flooding. This may have been the only way to prevent further loss of life.


50 posted on 06/20/2017 9:53:49 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Fidel and Che are together again, and it ain't on a t-shirt.)
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Sadly, this is not an unknown scenario in naval history. It happened at Pearl Harbor.

Pearl Harbor: 16 Days To Die

60 posted on 06/20/2017 10:14:43 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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I once toured a WWII Submarine (its in Mobile, Alabama - great tour). Anyway, the guide described the SOP for the doors - some alarm is sounded, and everybody shuts the doors ASAP...and that’s the cruel rules they have to live by.


62 posted on 06/20/2017 10:21:27 AM PDT by lacrew
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The Navy is investigating the horrifying possibility that some of those who died on the USS Fitzgerald when it sank may have been trapped alive in rapidly flooding compartments as emergency hatches were closed, it has emerged.

As gruesome as this must sound to civilians, it was likely the correct thing to do. Had those hatches not been quickly sealed, the entire ship may have been lost.

67 posted on 06/20/2017 10:38:04 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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