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As White House defends Jared Kushner, experts question his back-channel move {Hypocritical BS}
washingtonpost.com ^ | May 28, 2017 | Phillip and Ehrenfreund

Posted on 05/28/2017 7:37:39 PM PDT by drpix

The Trump administration argued over the weekend that back-channel communications are acceptable in building dialogue with foreign governments, part of an effort to minimize fallout over White House adviser Jared Kushner’s reported discussion about creating a secret conduit to the Kremlin at a Russian diplomatic compound.

But some former administration officials on Sunday criticized the use of such secret channels...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: democratpropaganda; kushner; media; trump; trumpfamily; trumprussia
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

You mean the “experts” that lost the last election??


21 posted on 05/28/2017 8:51:27 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Rockingham

Words “Back channel “ are a misdirection. Kushner wanted to use russian equivalent of a SCIF to avoid US intelligence detection as a private citizen...then didnt disclose meeting on a security clearance form.

Kennedy was POTUS..not a private citizen.

People need to start focusing on the important part of this...who leaked national security details that involve encryption in order to try to take down kushner.

Btw..russia wasnt going to give kushner access to their SCIF equivalent....just like we wouldnt do it for a putin son in law.


22 posted on 05/28/2017 8:59:20 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: All

Hello Trump administration. You had better stop playing defense. Comey should have been fired day one and Hillary should have been arrested by now.


23 posted on 05/28/2017 9:07:54 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: RummyChick

All of this leaking about the Russians. Is it the Russians who are doing the leaking?


24 posted on 05/28/2017 9:15:23 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: virgil

it could be..I am more concerned with who leaked national security info than kushners bone headed idea


25 posted on 05/28/2017 9:20:04 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Rockingham

We’ve always had back channels to Russia and the Deorats know it.........their just putting pressure on and the media of course is carrying their message..........it’s obstruction of our government and the demorats are actually the enemy of this nation and people for doing so.....this is not normal nasty politics....these are direct attacks to intereference with the governance of this nation by using slander against appointed officials.


26 posted on 05/28/2017 9:24:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: drpix
Nov 9, 2012

Today the White House denied rumors that Valerie Jarrett, one of President Obama’s top advisers, is allegedly negotiating with Iran over its nuclear program.

Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council, told Fox News that “there is not a shred of truth to this report. It’s completely false."

thinkprogress.org

27 posted on 05/28/2017 9:36:35 PM PDT by Daaave ("The flesh eating jinn of Komari")
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To: Daaave
The Washington Post
Democracy Dies In Darkness

April 2, 2015

Obama announces outlines of a nuclear deal: ‘If Iran cheats, the world will know’

28 posted on 05/28/2017 9:43:43 PM PDT by Daaave ("The flesh eating jinn of Komari")
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To: Daaave

29 posted on 05/28/2017 9:46:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Shudda hired Blabby Farkas for the contact


30 posted on 05/28/2017 11:01:19 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: drpix
But foreign policy experts and former officials told The Washington Post such a request of the Russians would be inappropriate unless carefully coordinated with the Obama administration, which was in office at the time.

Unsourced. Bye.

31 posted on 05/28/2017 11:03:19 PM PDT by upchuck (Liberals created facebook and twitter and they were ruined by it ~ h/t dp0622)
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To: jonrick46

Obama used Robert Malley, son of the late Soviet asset and founder of one of the three “Communist Party(s) of Egypt” (1948), as his official “back-channel” contact with Assad of Syria until the operation was exposed.

Malley is now or recently was, with the leftist International Crisis Group (See “www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org” for some details.

Robert’ father Simon Malley was an Egyptian communist who later went to France and set up a pro-Soviet propaganda and disinformation publication roughly entitled “L’Asia- L’Afrique”. Eventually the whole family was expelled from France as threats to their national security.

Obama sure knew how to pick his advisors, from the far-left Marxist/communist end of the political spectrum. There is so little ideological information on Robert Malley, and not much more on his commie father Simon, that one begins to suspect a biographical coverup. Could it be the “boys have done something rash”?


32 posted on 05/28/2017 11:40:13 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Rockingham
I am skeptical that inheriting a real estate fortune and piddling about in the Manhattan real estate market makes one qualified to establish and conduct back-channel negotiations with the Russians.

Hopefully you are even more skeptical that a community organizer can open a back channel with Iran.

33 posted on 05/29/2017 1:15:41 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: palmer
Call me not just skeptical but hostile to such a notion -- and deeply hostile to the community organizer and to rotten Hillary as well.

As for Jared Kushner, even granting that he is a swell fellow and a peach of a son in law, he cannot fairly be described as having much in the way of knowledge and experience to qualify him for a White House position at the President's elbow. It would be far better to send him to a federal agency with a team of reliable assistants and a specific defined mission within his real estate competency.

If Kushner hit a few home runs in such a role, then, like a rookie in pro baseball, he could safely be advanced to the majors. Otherwise, put in a high White House position too soon, Kushner's career in government could wither as he fell prey to rookie mistakes.

34 posted on 05/29/2017 1:57:37 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: caww

Nasty as it is, obstruction of your opponent is part of what politics is about. The Democrats have no coherent ideas except more leftism, but they do have a fierce determination to win. In conservatism, the GOP has a potent political philosophy, but they lack a determination to win that even approaches that of the Democrats. Our magnificent President Trump seems to be an exception to that, being a conservative with an outsize personality and an extraordinary determination to succeed.


35 posted on 05/29/2017 2:15:21 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
I don't judge people like Kushner and I give great deference to Trump who I supported because he would bring his long time friends and allies into government rather than more of the revolving door crowd.

I feel that the US experiment is a lost cause. The election of Trump is a hopeful reprieve, as was the election of Reagan. When Reagan was elected I was a propagandized HS senior, taught to hate, although I didn't fully buy into it. I finally did buy into supply side economics after reading David Stockman (among others) who was disregarded like Kushner is today, especially considering the media is a lot more hostile now. Foreign policy is not that difficult and I do not see why Kushner cannot do it reasonably well. He's not a brilliant whippersnapper like Stockman, but it's not rocket science we're talking about.

36 posted on 05/29/2017 2:18:54 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: RummyChick

Making a SCIF is relatively easy if you know what to do and have access to a Home Depot. I am astonished that anyone in the US government with a lick of sense would think to trust a Russian SCIF.


37 posted on 05/29/2017 2:20:50 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: palmer

Actually, foreign policy is hard because most of the issues and problems it deals with cannot be solved, only managed. Kushner’s own political views, to the extent that they are known, seem to be liberal Democrat. His take on the Mideast conflict, for example, alarmed many conservative Israelis.


38 posted on 05/29/2017 2:29:17 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
Conservative Israelis should be alarmed by the rise of Trump. Saudi or other Arab haters of Israel should be even more alarmed. Unfortunately the only solution to the demographics of Israel is yet another Arab state. Mattis in particular is a two-stater. Two states doesn't mean the end of Israel, but the current trend to an overwhelming Arab majority does mean the end of a Jewish Israel.

This is not a hard problem in any intellectual sense. It is a hard problem only because of entrenched interests who can't see beyond the short term. Trump's genius, even if accidental, is to incorporate varying views into his cabinet and advisors. Hopefully there are lots of supporters of Israel and a Jewish Israel, I would be surprised if there are not. Thus I am not concerned about the two state proponents like Kushner if he is one of those. Trump will be balanced and consider all the ramifications. He is not going to support a bad deal to make himself look good. That is not his modus operandi.

39 posted on 05/29/2017 2:41:37 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: drpix

Here’s a long article on Kushner. The worst news is that he has decided to stay and fight rather than to decamp with Ivanka to NY.

Let’s hope that is still an option they are open to.


40 posted on 05/29/2017 3:33:52 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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