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The Damage Wolves Are Inflicting On America: Part 4b – Big Wolf Lies
Bowhunting.net ^ | May 15, 2017 | Toby Bridges

Posted on 05/26/2017 12:03:19 PM PDT by Twotone

If you live within the reddish or pinkish shaded areas of the corridor shown on the accompanying map … you just might be among the first to feel the bite of the United Nations’ pipedream known as Agenda 21. What this map shows is one Agenda 21 installment of The Wildlands Network, known as the Yellowstone to Yukon Conservation Initiative.

This is a collaborative effort of more than a hundred environmental groups, organizations and related agencies. One of those “radical” agencies just happens to be MT Fish, Wildlife and Parks which is listed as a collaborating partner of this plan to force residents off the land in order to establish a 2,000 mile long “wilderness corridor” running from the Greater Yellowstone Area all the way to the Yukon. A few years back, irate Montana sportsmen forced the agency to withdraw its name from the list but it is now back on that list. And so is the University of Montana, who’s Dr. Robert Ream lied about the native Northern Rockies wolf “no longer existing”.

Did you know that until just a couple of years ago, Bob Ream also headed the Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks Commission and steered Montana’s fish and game agency away from adequate wolf control and to hide real wolf numbers and hide the true damage wolves were inflicting on big game populations. It should be clear to everyone that MT FWP and the University of Montana have been and continue to be willing partners in this wildlife disaster.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Idaho; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: agenda21; disease; hydatid; hydatiddisease; tapeworm; unagenda21; unitednations; wolves
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To: Twotone

I’d like to see a lot more predators — they would keep down the population of crying baby liberals. Go Wolves! Let’s get some cougars in these neighborhoods to keep down the lap dog population!


21 posted on 05/26/2017 12:56:07 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Hot Tabasco; All
"In a way it’s good news,” said Doug Smith, a Yellowstone National Park biologist. “We think we have a fairly stable elk herd.”

Sounds like this a&%shat thinks a smaller herd is a more stable herd? So what's the end game of that, a herd of 1?
22 posted on 05/26/2017 12:58:13 PM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington D.C. has become the enemy of free people everywhere!)
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To: Jim 0216

What Canadian border controls to we have for wolves?


23 posted on 05/26/2017 12:59:30 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1

I suppose you could have federal border control for wolves even though that might be a stretch.

The real issue is unconstitutional federal commandeering of state lands. Wolves are the problem of each state. The feds have no constitutional authority to interfere with these issues at all within the state.


24 posted on 05/26/2017 1:16:41 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: FredZarguna

That’s right. The U.S. Constitution and U.S. sovereignty is only within U.S. borders. Seems obvious but maybe not to some.

The tenth amendment is confirming that federal power is expressly limited to that which is delegated by the Constitution.

The Constitution must be read as written and originally understood and intended. There are very important unexpressed assumptions in the Constitution that derive from the Declaration of Independence (DofI). The Constitution is mandatory authority but the DofI is persuasive authority.

More attention needs to be paid to the DofI which would probably help with the idea that the U.S. government is created by and power derived from the citizens of the U.S via the Constitution which has no authority over any other country because it is not tied to the people of any other country.


25 posted on 05/26/2017 1:30:10 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Twotone
Map:


26 posted on 05/26/2017 1:31:52 PM PDT by upchuck (Liberals created facebook and twitter and they were ruined by it ~ h/t dp0622)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"In a way it’s good news,” said Doug Smith, a Yellowstone National Park biologist. “We think we have a fairly stable elk herd.”

I would like to hear him explain how a herd of 17,000 elk was unstable.

27 posted on 05/26/2017 1:35:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: Twotone

It’s just a bunch of lone wolves. Nothing to worry about.


28 posted on 05/26/2017 2:20:52 PM PDT by csn vinnie
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To: central_va

Wolves eat deer and elk. Deer and elk are big ticket items economically, bring hundreds of millions of dollars worth of fees, spending and travel. Wolves, well, the they eat the dollars conservation has expended ( conservation meaning both private and public efforts across the west and now Midwest/even S central states).

Do the math- hunting deer and elk bring in millions, wolves cost millions, the taxpayer/entrepreneur/hunter all lose dollars.

Wolves need to go. That said, several states have allowed wolf hunting, but the damage to elk populations is enormous and climbing.

The radical animal lovers ( well, not really, just feel good “let it be natural” weirdos, really) hate hunting and economic boon, they’d rather see no elk shot, only eaten by predators in the wild, They have never and will never kill and eat anything other than a salad themselves, so they hate those who are willing and able minded to get their hands bloody.

Do away with the wolves.

Everywhere they are, elk/deer small game decline rapidly. There is no balance until Elk are nearly gone and wolves are nearly gone too. Then they’ll eat sheep and cattle-that’s what it means to be an Apex predator- anything under you is food. Man’s economy is more important than wolves on other than specific reserves.

Africa is a totally different paradigm- there are few wild spaces on the dark continent. Management of all species is mandated IOT to see any of the large/dangerous game survive- and that is done by hunting concession. competition for a wildly expanding human population and land conversion. Not even on the same planet as NA wild life conservation.


29 posted on 05/26/2017 2:28:42 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: notdownwidems

No hunting in NPs. Therein lies the problem- indeed the elk did much damage to their own living room because of failure to manage- the cornerstone of conservation. Controlled hunts could have made the Interior department millions, wolves cost millions.


30 posted on 05/26/2017 2:32:39 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Twotone

Shoot, shovel, shut up!

Looked like a Coyote to me?


31 posted on 05/26/2017 2:38:58 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Manly Warrior
Do away with the wolves lions.

How would you feel about that?

32 posted on 05/26/2017 2:44:17 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: FredZarguna

How much of our taxes and Pittman-Roberts funds go to manage this in Canada??


33 posted on 05/26/2017 3:26:55 PM PDT by Plain Old American (Remember who said what)
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To: Manly Warrior
No hunting in NPs.

Yep. Elk/deer go to NPs and private land where they have less pressure. In southern Colorado land owners groom their land for elk. They'll tell you there's more money in elk than cattle. And the former division of wildlife, now parks and wildlife (emphasis on parks) hands them tags to sell or whatever they can get out of them. These same landowners then bill the state (hunters who buy tags) for "game damage" because they feed on their "cattle hay" on the land they groom for elk. Many of these "ranchers" vote and donate to democRats because they have a sweet deal going on. Just try to get permission to hunt on these ranches that bill or "game damage", they'll send you packing if you don't have $5000, $10,000 to $15,000 I you want a bull.

34 posted on 05/26/2017 3:33:11 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi; Manly Warrior

or = for, twice


35 posted on 05/26/2017 3:34:58 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Twotone

I’m in the 10 area on the map, in Montana just to the left of the top of the 10. I have seen first hand how the elk and moose have been decimated on my land and the surrounding areas.

Wolf packs circle my home and wake me up with their damn howling. My land was an elk calving ground but the elk have moved on. I rarely see them anymore. And the moose have all but vanished. They don’t stand a chance in the deep snow against wolves.


36 posted on 05/26/2017 3:45:07 PM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: Timpanagos1

It doesn’t relate to our constitution, but it does relate to Agenda 21. One of the methods used to move Agenda 21/2030 forward is to bypass our regular gov’t systems. Which is why they keep setting up ‘regional’ groups where the local folks don’t have a say in what goes on.

People never know about these things until they’re a done deal. I just moved to southern Idaho, & had never heard of this particular ‘initiative’. Now that I know, I’ll be having words with my state & local legislators.


37 posted on 05/26/2017 4:03:16 PM PDT by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: TigersEye
explain how a herd of 17,000 elk was unstable

There's something to what he says.

A herd that big can cause tremendous stress on the grazing and migration areas.

Used to be when the heavy snows hit Yellowstone Park 20,000 elk would come pouring out, through fences, ranches, across roads, looking for forage.

But then they would fan out and settle and most everything was good. Twenty thousand was too big a herd. Two thousand is a tragic joke.

They could have trimmed the herd by increased hunting. Instead they wanted to play God, and brought in the wolves, as least as much out of loathing for the people on the land as for elk management.

The Feds and local game authorities have been lying and dumbing-down now for thirty years.

Their latest stupidity showed up just a month or so ago. They were talking about an onset of chronic wasting disease, which can lethally afflict elk, deer and other big game.

At the meeting it was decided that the best method would just be to let the wolves sort it out. The main guy said, "Well, the wolves eat the elk, and the best part is that it's free!" (Which it is not, of course---millions upon millions are poured into "managing" the wolves.)

So the Montana Fish Wildlife & Parks' solution to a disease risk is to let the predators kill them all before they can get sick. Sheesh...

38 posted on 05/26/2017 4:09:40 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey
They could have trimmed the herd by increased hunting.

Bingo! Both Yellowstone and Teton Nat. Parks are surrounded by Nat. Forest lands where hunting is permitted. If they would issue adequate permits.

What the biologists seem to me to be missing is that prey animals have been significantly reduced in number and in range by modern society. That is not going to change. When North America was open from the Arctic to the Gulf of Mexico and from the Atlantic to the Pacific it wasn't possible for predators to decimate populations of prey animals. It is possible now because the ranges that elk have today are far smaller and consist primarily of the harshest zones of their historical ranges. High altitudes IOWs.

39 posted on 05/26/2017 4:27:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: blueunicorn6
I don't mind the idea of letting animals survive where they can....BUT there must be a predator that they are afraid of....

hunting them would keep them in the mountains or wildlife areas...

bears and cougars and wolves need to have fear of humans.

40 posted on 05/26/2017 5:04:05 PM PDT by cherry
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