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Why did Trump betray us? (Why things never seem to change no matter who we send to Washington)
Economic Collapse Blog ^ | 5MAY17 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 05/03/2017 4:21:31 AM PDT by vannrox

Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

Why do things never seem to change no matter who we send to Washington? 

It seems like for decades many of us have been trying to change the direction of this country by engaging in the political process.  But no matter how hard we try, the downward spiral of our nation just continues to accelerate.  Just look at this latest spending deal.  Even though the American people gave the Republicans control of the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives, this deal very closely resembles “an Obama administration-era budget”.  It increases spending even though we have already been adding more than a trillion dollars a year to the national debt, it specifically forbids the building of a border wall, it fully funds Planned Parenthood, and there are dozens of other concessions to the Democrats in it.  As I previously warned, these “negotiations” were a political rout of epic proportions.

Perhaps many of us were being highly unrealistic when we expected that Donald Trump could change things.  Because fixing America is going to take a lot more than getting the right number of “red” or “blue” politicians to Washington.  Rather, the truth is that the real problem lies in our hearts, and the corrupt politicians that currently represent us are simply a reflection of who we have become as a nation.

The generations of people that founded this nation and established it as the greatest republic that the world had ever seen had far different values than most Americans do today.

So until there is a dramatic shift in how most of us see the world, it is quite likely that not much in Washington will change.

Throughout the campaign, Donald Trump spoke boldly about “draining the swamp”, but this spending deal very much reflects the swamp’s priorities.  The Washington Post has published a list of eight ways that “Trump got rolled in his first budget negotiation”, and in this case the Post is quite correct…

1. There are explicit restrictions to block the border wall.

 

2. Non-defense domestic spending will go up, despite the Trump team’s insistence he wouldn’t let that happen.

 

3. Barack Obama’s cancer moonshot is generously funded.

 

4. Trump fought to cut the Environmental Protection Agency by a third. The final deal trims its budget by just 1 percent, with no staff cuts.

 

5. He didn’t defund Planned Parenthood.

 

6. The president got less than half as much for the military as he said was necessary.

 

7. Democrats say they forced Republicans to withdraw more than 160 riders.

 

8. To keep negotiations moving, the White House already agreed last week to continue paying Obamacare subsidies.

In essence, the Democrats got virtually everything that they wanted, and the Republicans got next to nothing.

Trump and the Republicans are promising that they will fight harder “next time”, but we have already heard that empty promise from Republicans year after year going all the way back to 2011.

Among many other conservative pundits, author Daniel Horowitz is absolutely blasting these “weak-kneed Republicans”

Now, with control of all three branches and a president who sold himself in the primaries as the antithesis of weak-kneed Republicans who don’t know the first thing about tough negotiations, we are in the exact same position. Last night, President Trump signaled that, after not even fighting on refugee resettlement and Planned Parenthood, he would cave on the final budget issue – the funding of the border fence. But fear not, he’ll resume his demand … the next time!

 

This degree of capitulation, with control of all three branches, is impressing even me … and I had low expectations of this president and this party. They have managed to get run over by a parked car. It’s truly breathtaking to contrast the performance of Democrats in the spring of 2009 with what Republicans have done today with all three branches. At this time in 2009, Democrats passed the bailouts, the stimulus, the first round of financial regulations, an equal pay bill, SCHIP expansion, and laid the groundwork for other, bigger proposals, such as cap and trade and Obamacare. Then they got everything they wanted in the March 2009 omnibus bill, and a number of GOP senators voted for it. We, on the other hand, are left with nothing.

And even the mainstream media is admitting that the Democrats made out like bandits in this deal.

Just check out the following quotes

If Trump can’t get his priorities funded now, do you think that the Democrats will somehow become more agreeable after he has spent a year or two in the White House?

Of course not.

If there ever was going to be a border wall, it was going to happen now.

If Planned Parenthood was ever going to be defunded, it was going to happen now.

The next “big battle” is going to be over a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, but the truth is that “Trumpcare” is going to end up looking very much like Obamacare.

Instead of repealing it, the Republicans are trying to “fix” Obamacare, and that is kind of like going to the dump and trying to “fix” a big, steaming pile of garbage.

But like I explained earlier, we should not expect things to move in a positive direction in Washington D.C. until the values of those representing us change.

At this point, there are only a few dozen members of the House and a handful of members of the Senate that even give lip service to the values of our founders.

And until our values change, we are not going to send representatives to Washington that share the values of our founders.

Sadly, most Americans know very little about the history of early America.  I would encourage everyone to look into why our founders came to this country in the first place, what they believed was most important in life, and how they viewed the world.

If we ever want to “make America great again”, we need to return to those values.  Otherwise, we are just blowing a lot of hot air.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; budget; democrat; federalspending; gorelick; gorelickinside; nevertrustthegop; speakerryan; trump; trump45; wall
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To: vannrox

All lies.

Get the facts here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_kwsSq_gs4


21 posted on 05/03/2017 4:37:58 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m with you 100% and will continue to stand by my President.


22 posted on 05/03/2017 4:38:02 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: SoFloFreeper

The author starts with “WaPo is correct” and goes downhill from there.


23 posted on 05/03/2017 4:38:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mewzilla

It hasn’t even passed the House and gone to the Senate yet. It will. Trump will sign it. People will take from the sequence of events whatever conclusion they are predisposed to take.


25 posted on 05/03/2017 4:41:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: petercooper

Amazing isnt it? we have it all, and we STILL get hosed... and they want to tell you its just rain...
every dim i know is happy... that should say it all.


26 posted on 05/03/2017 4:42:10 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: momincombatboots

Yes we know all of the recycled talking points, Cruz supporter from 2016.

Oddly enough the things people here liked didnt seem to fall into the wingbat theroy that he is a scared “hillary plant”.

But things arent 100% perfect so thts when you clowns from the GOPbreifing room flood back here to scream and meltdown.


27 posted on 05/03/2017 4:42:13 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: vannrox

I brought this up in the other thread, in brief, if spending bills require 60 votes; can’t this bill still be stopped?

There are 52 Republican Senators, 46 Democratic Senators and 2 independents, one being Bernie so he’ll side with the Dems, so that would mean 12-14 Republican Senators would have to vote for this too.

You would think, the Repubs could get 41 votes to stop this; but I’m not sure of the rules and protocol.

At the same time, I can see if Planned Parenthood were defunded in this vehicle, then, it sounds like it would be hard to get 60 votes for the bill.


28 posted on 05/03/2017 4:43:37 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: momincombatboots

I believe Mercer helped orchestrate the coup against Demint to get him out of the way. The letter from Heritage yesterday was an abomination .


29 posted on 05/03/2017 4:44:14 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: vannrox

I think DJT has come to realize how deep the swamp really is.

I wouldn’t want to be one of these feckless GOPe characters come September. Trump has a big mouth and will not be restrained by niceties. He might start to name names and who are funding them...on both sides of the aisle.

(while I know this isn’t popular or right, I kinda enjoy knowing that all the spying authority that Obama claimed for himself, now belongs to DJT)


30 posted on 05/03/2017 4:44:16 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: petercooper

I agree that the budget deal is a sh*tty deal, but am not yet ready to accuse Trump of betrayal. I will at least entertain the idea that he is playing chess instead of checkers - only time will tell. On the other hand, I am disappointed that Trump seems to be slow in recognizing that Ryan, McConnell (and sometimes Pence) actively seek out surrender.

Trump seems to be promising a shutdown over the 2018 fiscal year budget. Let’s hope that he means it. I have always assumed that “draining the swamp” would be difficult and fraught with setbacks. Trump has made progress in the areas which he controls and seems to still be figuring out how to work with congressional Republicans. At the moment I am still hopeful, but steamed about the steaming pile of manure that everyone calls a budget.


31 posted on 05/03/2017 4:44:27 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: vannrox

Gingrich said it stops him from building a concrete wall but not a steel or any other wall. This was Obama’s continuing resolution. Yes, a defeat but he did not have the votes for anything else.


32 posted on 05/03/2017 4:45:04 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: donozark

Next one I get, I’m sending it back with NFW


33 posted on 05/03/2017 4:45:29 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: vannrox

You Gripers are the FOOLS!

“See You in September”


34 posted on 05/03/2017 4:47:32 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Guenevere
Why is this bilge allowed on FR?

Free Republic is a forum; it's something called "Free Speech". Or are you a Fascist who wants to shut down anyone who disagrees with you?

Are there that many Freepers here who are never Trumpers?

So, anyone who is angry about the recent turn of events is a never Trumper? You believe that people can't support Trump yet still be upset at what happened? Who still support him yet think he's making a mistake?

You have an extremely tiny political understanding of things.

Turns off many of us..

There are a lot of competing voices at Free Republic. Learn it, love it, live it. Get out of your bubble.

..Have you forgotten, or did you ever know who the real enemy is?

Yes, it's people who want to silence those who have a different opinion than yours; those who think they can police Free Republic regarding its content.

Let's start with the enemy within...

35 posted on 05/03/2017 4:48:02 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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To: petercooper

>>Prepare a sane budget, and ram it through!! We have all 3 branches of government. Unreal.
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The fact that they can’t get the votes from their own party should expose, ONCE AND FOR ALL, the “party” fraud.

There is only UNIPARTY (Dems & RINOS) and PATRIOTS (DJT and We the People).

Once we understand where loyalties really lay, it is not difficult to see the problem we face.


36 posted on 05/03/2017 4:48:14 AM PDT by Kalamata
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To: central_va

South Carolina was a majority population slave state, so was Virginia or one of those other states. Are you willing to give votes to all men and women? Or some white supremacist bs society? Let’s see how red the CSA would be if they all returned.

If a white supremacist society majority slave population is what you want, dream on. That was the CSA.


37 posted on 05/03/2017 4:48:25 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: vannrox

I wouldn’t call it betrayal. Trump is up against the Army of Satan. Satan has to be burned out. You don’t politely ask a stump to leave your yard. You don’t drain stumps. You hammer chains into them and yank them out with pickup trucks or use tnt


38 posted on 05/03/2017 4:49:54 AM PDT by brucedickinson
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To: SoFloFreeper

My take is that it is too early to tell if Trump has betrayed us. My belief is that he eventually will, not because of his character or anything like that. Rather, because he will have no choice. That is, once someone realizes the situation the worlds, and specifically, the U.S.’s economy is in, they do what they have to to keep it afloat another day or two. It happened “bigly” in 2008. I posted a thread about it. We almost went down way back then. It’s why we got QE.

You can not use fiat money forever. There is always a day of reckoning. It always takes longer for the “big unwind” to happen than the doomsayer think it will, but once it starts, it will happen faster than anyone can predict.

This is why I was VERY glad Trump won, but I saw it more as a moral victory. Our situation is beyond a human solution. When I post on this and other sites regarding what Trump will do or not do and how it may affect us, I’m doing it mostly for entertainment value. It is my way of fiddling while Rome burns.

There is a reason I moved from Seattle to a farm in central KY. The only solution to our problem is draconian austerity, and it won’t be voluntary. Sadly, when it gets that bad, countries tend to start attacking each other. Desperate times call for desperate actions, and all that. It’s why I have so many chickens and am picking up some cattle. They are pretty easy to raise and I now have the property and fencing for it.

Trump was never the answer, no matter what fence he builds or doesn’t build. He was a solution to a specific blister on our nation. He was not its cancer cure.

And this is not just about the U.S. The whole world is in the same predicament.


39 posted on 05/03/2017 4:49:56 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: TheConservativeBanker
The people who "get it" the best are those who have followed the budgeting process for years, or those who have otherwise taken the time to study it closely.

Both sides are spinning, which is typical/normal. The OP is a crock of BS. Garbage on top of garbage. This too is typical of the sort of information the partisans on both sides are fed.

40 posted on 05/03/2017 4:50:47 AM PDT by Cboldt
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