Posted on 05/02/2017 11:30:24 AM PDT by simpson96
Having said that, there is a good quote from the press briefing from the administration's budget director to keep things in perspective:
"There was some discussion at that time when President Obama was still here about funding the government for the entire fiscal year 17. Can you imagine how different this bill is from what the bill that President Obama would have signed back in September?"
Something to keep in mind is that under normal circumstances a new president has no influence in Federal appropriations for his first 8+ months in office because the government is working under the current fiscal year's budget which covers a fiscal year (FY2017) that started on October 1st before the election.
What makes 2017 different is that Congress never passed a budget for FY2017. They passed a continuing resolution to get through early December, and then after the election the Trump transition team asked them to hold off on passing an appropriations bill to cover all of FY2017 until after the new president was inaugurated. So the GOP Congress passed a few short-term extension bills through the spring of 2017, and the bill they agreed on yesterday was just to cover the remaining five months of the year until FY2018 begins on October 1st.
The more I read about this, the more I'm wondering if Donald Trump is just a mad genius who put the Republicans in the House and Senate on the spot for the FY2018 budget. I'm sure they're already getting a ton of crap from their constituents over this short-term bill, so they're going to go into the FY2018 budget negotiations knowing full well that their jobs are really going to be on the line if they don't give Trump most of what he's seeking in his proposed FY2018 budget.
Something else to keep in mind is that the Democrats are all over the place making statements about how successful they were in this five-month appropriations deal. Their only purpose in doing this is to sow the seeds of discontent among Republican voters.
If Trump has the pairing necessary to veto this budget and not pass this abomination down the road as the Republicans want to do, he will, after the dust settles, go down as the greatest President of the century.
He will renew the energy of his base. He will attract others by the very example of his courage. He will show mettle that will deter his enemies.
Be bold Donald. If you fail you fail your children and grandchildren and mine. Be very bold.
BULL. You know how great empires fall? They overextend themselves militarily and go bankrupt. The French monarchy throughout the 1700s was getting more and more overloaded with social programs. Then they fought a costly war in North America and then the bottom fell out.
The British, too, were loaded with debts from that same war which they then tried to raise among their colonists who were clamoring for protections (cough cough), and the Stamp Act and all that business and look how that turned out.
Bankruptcy is a losing military strategy. A nation has to be on sound economic footing going to war with its countrymen invested in its success, or all the money you are throwing at the "latest greatest military" won't matter.
If this is the attitude of those who are leading this Republic, then we are not going to have a Republic much longer. That's a guarantee.
I agree that the increased spending for the military is a win.
However, I want the wall/fence built the entire authorized 700+ miles.
If I were Trump, I’d be researching the reprogramming of designated money. I know it gets done all the time in other areas, but this one will be controversial.
I would declare an invasion and the wall/fence would be the counter to that invasion.
After all, there is an invasion.
Suddenly, the media that has claimed there are 20 million illegals in the country will begin claiming there are only a dozen or so. Therefore, they’ll say, there’s no invasion.
Just say the Kool Aid tastes delicious and be done with it.
>>Anyone tired of winning yet?<<
+PP funding
-Wall
-obozocare replacment
I am just tired.
So, they gave the Democrats all the spending they wanted, and increased military spending. Oh and this spending maked Americans safe, unlike that border wall.
Do you mean other than the lobbyists who wrote it?
Hey Pence, quit pi$$ing on my leg and telling me it’s raining!
Trump could designate the invasion as a “clear and present danger”. All kinds of money could be diverted to it then.
“Kept touting the 21 billion (whoop de do) in military spending and deflected every time he was asked about the othe other 900 billion of lawless wasteful evil liberal garbage.”
I KNOW!!! I kept screaming - But, it’s OUR money!!!! It’s NOT yours!!! WE have to keep paying for all this crap!!!
Even the ‘good guys’ don’t get it anymore.
The wall also protects the American people, Mr. Vice-President.
Trump would be the best person to explain what he did and his strategy so his base is up to date. Not Pence who may or may not articulate the position well.
Agreed I watched that press briefing and felt somewhat better after then before. He also called out the Dems for crowing about stuff they didn’t really accomplish.
The republican party has rolled over again. In between rolling over, they kiss democrat butt.
They are despicable cowards, a combination of treachery and incompetence.
Why did he even try calling him unless he had something more than his member in his hand?
I can’t believe he was put up to this. He had nothing. Worse, he sounded like he was still in Congress.
Somebody better wake up Congress and let them know which end of the rifle they are actually holding.
And Ryan needs to go. Full stop.
Was this really Mike Pence (though remember he was rolled in Indiana over the bathroom bill) or Karl Rove?
0bamacare. The Wall. Defunding the agencies. Defunding the NEA, NEH, NPR, PBS, and Planned Parenthood - where are we at on any of that? We have Pence patting himself on the back for a military spending increase and Ryan crowing about a spending increase for ICE like he'd just won an Olympic medal and the Dems high-fiving because the Republicans rolled over and showed their bellies as they always do. I'm not feeling a whole lot of winning here.
“I actually think this was, as the president said a little a while ago, I think this was actually a clear win for the American people.”
When Trump chose Pence my heart sank, because I thought Trump needed to look outside our irredeemably corrupt and depraved political class.
This is the first blatant, absolutely indefensible lie I have seen out of Pence, but where there is one such lie, there is a corrupt and depraved politician.
I had hoped to be proved wrong. Instead, Pence convicts himself.
A while back on a local Houston talk radio station, Kevin Brady came on as a guest. They opened the phone lines. So, I called to ask Rep. Kevin Brady a question...and gave a comment.
So Mr Brady, you know as well as I that these continuing resolutions are NOT constitutional. The constitution mandates congress to formulate a budget. Each and every agency is to submit their budgets and they are to be debated/scrutinized. Lumping all spending together in one vote only serves to continue out of control spending.
Rep. Brady agreed. Then went on to say, this CR will fund the military...blah blah blah. He then said, “when it comes to the military, I will vote YES every time”.
Cloak this irresponsible, monumental fiscal mismanagement with support for the military. Good grief!
Out of control government at it's finest.
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