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Jim Jordan: I Think You’re Going to See a Lot of Conservatives Be Against the Spending Plan
Breitbart ^ | May 1, 2017 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 05/01/2017 8:37:04 AM PDT by HarleyLady27

Monday on CNN’s “New Day,” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), the vice chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, said that he foresees some conservatives coming out against a proposed government spending bill set to come out later this week.

“I mean, look, money goes to Planned Parenthood as you said,” Jordan said to host Chris Cuomo. “Money continues to go to sanctuary cities but no money for the border wall. I think you’re going to see a lot of conservatives be against this plan this week.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 115th; bills; economy; federalspending; government; laws; safespacers; shuntheunbelievers; speakerryan; taxpayerfunding
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To: HarleyLady27
So we will find out exactly how compromised Republicans are with this budget. What they are telling Americans that voted for them is that they are the democrats or are controlled by the democrat spying.

Either way there is no way to fix the problem any more with voting.

61 posted on 05/01/2017 9:57:20 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: HarleyLady27
Is Wisconsin going to re elect him again???
62 posted on 05/01/2017 9:59:17 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Lady Heron

Sure there is, primary half of Republicans with DJT guys. We just need the list of who to start taking down and who to start supporting. People are warmed up about voting, and will do what DJT asks them to preserve the contract they made him.


63 posted on 05/01/2017 10:01:35 AM PDT by txhurl (BOOM BOOM! - what is it - :)
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To: Principled
Why the dems get everything they want and Rs have house, senate, and excutive.

Because the ballot box is broken. Doesn't work any longer. Only one box left to turn too.

64 posted on 05/01/2017 10:04:35 AM PDT by dware (If you think voting still works, you're part of the problem. The ballot box is broken.)
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To: HarleyLady27

No sh!t Sherlock.


65 posted on 05/01/2017 10:19:49 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem wiath socialists is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: HarleyLady27

The more things change the more they stay the same. Especially in D.C. The establishment is in charge and Trump will have to use his full powers to force them to do what the voters elected him, and them, to do. Veto is a big stick. Shut down the government if the establishment won’t bend to his will. If Trump doesn’t fight using all the weapons at his disposal, then we can conclude that he’s just another elite.


66 posted on 05/01/2017 10:19:55 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: Fantasywriter
However Trump handles it, you can be sure he will be focused more on long term success than short term gratification/virtue signaling. Unfortunately, we can be sure of nothing of the kind.

If Trump fails to veto this continuing resolution he has undermined every foundational stone of his presidency. How can he be heard in September to reverse himself 180° and veto a budget of like kind once again presented by the same coalition, (as you somehow believe it to be free of input from Trump) of Democrats and rinos when he has endorsed essentially the same budget today? That would be the mother of all flip-flops.

He simply cannot do so and retain credibility. By credibility I mean his "focus" as you put it for "long-term success". The whole idea that Trump can swim with the Democrats and the rinos for the first crucial nine months of his presidency and then do an about-face and become a righteous conservative is simply silly.

It is now or never.

Are we supposed to believe the Trump's behavior concerning Rino reform of healthcare is a one off? Are we supposed to believe that the people he has associated himself with, those whom he made you believe were the very figures of evil, Goldman Sachs, have no influence on him? Are we to believe that his daughter and his son-in-law similarly are hanging around for the canapés in the White House and have no influence? We will soon know. If Trump fails to veto this continuing resolution only those psychologically addicted, akin to enablers, can fail to believe that they have been deceived by all the grand promises of the campaign. If, on the other hand, Trump vetoes the bill and takes the case to the country reminiscent of Harry Truman or Ronald Reagan and gives ' em Hell and tells the country he's putting his own legacy and reputation at risk on their behalf perhaps then he can carry the day and perhaps then he will be worthy of belief. Perhaps then he will be worthy of all the adulation he has received for doing nothing more than making grandiose promises.

Do not misjudge me, if he does the honorable thing, I will be his head cheerleader. But do not invert reality, it is Trump's responsibility to prove what he is rather than our responsibility as sentinent citizens to continue to deny the evidence of our own eyes on faith


67 posted on 05/01/2017 10:20:01 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Excellent post as always. My guess is he’ll sign it with an assurance that the budget later this year will be better.


68 posted on 05/01/2017 10:23:51 AM PDT by Alcibiades (Save the Republic.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Paul Ryan, a ka “Santa Claus”, is about to deliver more goodies for the Democrats. All the Dems Leftist projects will continue to flourish with full taxpayer funding, including the hideous subsidy for baby-killing at Planned Parenthood.

However, there is NO funding for the border wall…because the Democrats and the GOPe Cheap Labor lobby don’t like that cornerstone of President Trump’s election victory. When is Paul Ryan going to be replaced as Speaker? This is the second year he has been Speaker. His 2016 and 2017 budgets have delighted Harry Reid and Charles Schumer, with the generous funding he gifted them with. Sickening. Why vote Republican next year if this Benedict Arnold continues as Speaker of the House?


69 posted on 05/01/2017 10:25:21 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: nathanbedford; flaglady47

‘And that’s when PP can be dealt with, the EPA, and anything else that needs to funded, or defunded. You are not waiting for an eternity; you are waiting until September of this year. Sheesh.’

NB, see all of post 56, and take it to heart. It speaks to your issues.

The Swamp will not be drained by the end of the first 100 days. The only people saying it has to be now or never are Trump-haters. Those of us who support him are willing to give him a *little* more time.

Btw, Flaglady, your post 56 is brilliant. Thanks for adding it to the discussion.


70 posted on 05/01/2017 10:30:27 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; flaglady47
I have already responded to and thoroughly refuted the absurd propositions contained in reply #56.

I have done so here .

And I have done so here


71 posted on 05/01/2017 10:43:22 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: LS

Spot on.

Unreal that the I word is even a mention, or concern, from “our” side :(

The very mention of that word, with 0zika, and you were an instant racist.

Walking a thin line, indeed.


72 posted on 05/01/2017 10:46:40 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Bros of different mo’s.


73 posted on 05/01/2017 10:48:24 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: nathanbedford

Thanks for the links but I’ll pass. Only a person wearing Trump-hater blinders would call post 56 absurd. It’s first and foremost common sense, and secondly simply brilliant.


74 posted on 05/01/2017 10:50:37 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: flaglady47

We got nothing in this budget- not a bone! I guess your the only one that got a secret Kushner decoder ring? This is a Park avenue budget.


75 posted on 05/01/2017 10:59:26 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Fantasywriter
If you never encounter a contrary opinion you will never be discomforted. Enjoy your Kool-Aid but be advised that it comes with a warning on the label:

Know- Nothingness

can be dangerous

to your health


76 posted on 05/01/2017 11:09:33 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: Dr. Ursus

It is Trump against the entire DC Establishment. Ryan hates Trump’s guts. He made that clear in Oct. ‘16. Most of the rest of them hate him too; he challenges their cushy, comfortable status quo.

Ryan got exactly what he wanted in this budget. Now it’s for Trump to decide whether to go openly to war against the GOP, or else utilize the next several months to create a wholly different budget as the first one for Trump’s fiscal year. We’ll see what happens.

I only note that with the Democrats and the MSM brazenly hating Trump 24-7, for Trump to declare open war on his supposed allies might not be circumspect. The moment Ryan & Co can openly announce their opposition to Trump, they will. Then Trump will accomplish nothing for a certainty.

Think about it.


77 posted on 05/01/2017 11:10:11 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: LS

If a Republican Congress were to impeach Trump there would a blood bath in the next election for them and for years to come. In my case there would be no forgiveness. In fact the R’s would probable set off civil disobedience across the country except this time it would be red state conservatives saying enough, we need tar and feathers.


78 posted on 05/01/2017 11:15:10 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Fantasywriter

Yea,I know Ryan is scum. If Trump does nothing in the future to correct this,the country will be socialist in twenty years.


79 posted on 05/01/2017 11:18:15 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: nathanbedford

The last thing I want is to antagonize you, NB. That serves no good purpose.

Otoh, to be honest I must say this. Contrary views are one thing, and I read many dozens every day. But then there are the views of people who simply and completely hate Trump. Sometimes I read those opinions and sometimes I don’t. In your case, I’ve read enough Trump hate to last me a while.

If you ever make a post about Trump with anything but gloom and doom, please feel free to ping me. I’d find your ideas apart from woe-is-Trump interesting, I’m sure.


80 posted on 05/01/2017 11:19:08 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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