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Jim Jordan: I Think You’re Going to See a Lot of Conservatives Be Against the Spending Plan
Breitbart ^ | May 1, 2017 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 05/01/2017 8:37:04 AM PDT by HarleyLady27

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To: HarleyLady27

Those are some good points. I hope I didn’t express the idea he didn’t get anything. I haven’t looked at it close enough to say that.

Isn’t it strange this is the first official budget in years.


121 posted on 05/01/2017 1:26:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Bami didn’t want to run on a budget, he wanted money and lots of it for the Muslim Bros....this was how he got it, plus there is dirt on every Rep. and Senator...why do you think 3 Republicans have and are retiring so fast...this is their out card...

As soon as A.G. Sessions, and people involved get everything put together, that sucking sound everyone want’s to hear, it will take your hearing away for about 24 hours...


122 posted on 05/01/2017 1:41:24 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Fantasywriter
Trump best chance at "getting his way" was right after winning the election, he has very little chance of getting more then a face saving token wall funding before an 2018 election.

The Democrats now know that Trump caves under pressure and you can bet the farm that they will put on a great deal of pressure during budget talks.

This CR represents every thing trump campaigned against. It is a complete sellout of his base. I know it not the CR trump wanted but he needs to be seen fighting for his agenda not caving to the RINOs and Rats.

Well at least Sessions his doing his job and hopefully the new SC judge will turn out to be a conservative and not another Roberts. So I don't regret my support for Trump. I just hate to see him throw his presidency away. IMHO that's what will happen if he signs the CR. His base of supporters will turn on him and then he's finished.

Of course NK could change everything. But that is a very risky strategy.

123 posted on 05/01/2017 1:52:59 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

We just see it differently. Trump has been stuck with Ryan, who hates him. Ryan also embodies the Uniparty’s disdain for the base. Trump would have gotten nowhere if his first move was to declare war on Ryan. His position would be exponentially worse today.

But Trump is still in a position to negotiate for his own budget, and he will. The political landscape by Nov ‘18 will look nothing like it does today. You’ll be pleasantly surprised.


124 posted on 05/01/2017 2:04:40 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

We will see which way this plays out after Trump signs the CR. One of us is very wrong. I don’t blame Trump for the CR I blame Ryan, but if Trump signs it he owns it too. Trump should be smart enough to see this as a trap.


125 posted on 05/01/2017 2:13:04 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

Trump has already said he’ll sign it. We won’t know how it plays out until the next election. A lot can happen/change between now and Nov ‘18.


126 posted on 05/01/2017 2:16:07 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: HarleyLady27

I sure hope so.

They’ve gotten away with so much for so long.

People know it, and they’re sick of it.


127 posted on 05/01/2017 2:25:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: Fantasywriter

Yes with NK, Iran and Russia being wild cards. However I don’t think we will need to wait for the election. I contend that Trump will lose a good deal of his supporters if the signs the CR. If I am right we should know a few days/weeks after he signs. And if I am right there is no way he will have the political capital to get the budget he wants. He will be a lame duck president in his first year in office.


128 posted on 05/01/2017 2:31:49 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

The timetable of politics is not as condensed as you imagine it to be. I just visited a pro-Trump site with 6 million members. Guess who they’re furious with?

Ryan.

Trump’s presidency is not on the verge of destruction. The prophets of gloom and doom are premature on this. As I mentioned previously, Trump “ended his own campaign,” scores of times both during the primaries and the general.

But Hillary is not POTUS, and neither is Jeb.

History has lessons to teach, if anyone wants to learn.


129 posted on 05/01/2017 2:39:30 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: DoughtyOne

This is a CR. The fiscal year doesn’t end until Sept, which is when we’ll get the first Trump budget.


130 posted on 05/01/2017 2:41:47 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; HarleyLady27

Thanks for pointing that out Fantasywriter. HarleyLady27 probably made pretty much the same point, and it sailed right over my head.

I appreciate the distinction. Good point.


131 posted on 05/01/2017 2:45:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: LS

If a President is that terrified of his own party impeaching him, he frankly should resign. He can’t operate at that point.

Would Pence live under this alleged fear as well?


132 posted on 05/01/2017 2:53:32 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: flaglady47

And what leverage will President Trump have in September that he does not possess now?

If ACA reform dies yet again, and his tax plan is still not passed, Dems will smell blood in the water and be thinking in terms of the 2018 mid-term.


133 posted on 05/01/2017 2:56:30 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: Alberta's Child

Donald Trump is a 70 year old man who seemingly eats KFC for breakfast. I think at some point, he’s going to ask himself whether he really wants to spend what very well could be the last productive years of his life having a Secret Service agent follow him into a bathroom. I think it’s fairly obvious he hates this job, hates having to deal with Congress, hates the hostile press, and hates living in the White House.

I think W hated a lot about the job too. But W also seems like the type who could be happy with two hours on an elliptical followed by a nice nap. He also knew EXACTLY what he was getting into being a Bush and all.


134 posted on 05/01/2017 3:09:29 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: WVMnteer

There is a difference between bein “afraid” and “aware.”

Probably Pence wouldn’t be because he doesn’t present the threat Trump does.


135 posted on 05/01/2017 3:09:43 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: DoughtyOne

D1, I made a mistake. Actually, the next fiscal year doesn’t start till Oct 1. Sept must be when Trump submits his budget to congress.

So sorry.


136 posted on 05/01/2017 3:17:13 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I realized the fiscal year ended around that time.

It’s okay.


137 posted on 05/01/2017 4:22:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: DoughtyOne

:)


138 posted on 05/01/2017 4:30:10 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: fireman15

Very funny, but isn’t DDT a banned chemical?


139 posted on 05/01/2017 5:25:00 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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To: LS
On the other hand-—and conservatives here better not forget this-—there are probably just enough votes in the House to impeach Trump if he gives them what THEY think is an excuse (i.e., a shutdown).

Impeach President Trump for a government shutdown?

C'mon. That's not a "high crime and misdemeanor".

And it would likely cause a civil war...

140 posted on 05/01/2017 5:50:31 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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