Posted on 04/25/2017 6:19:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
For those of you wondering why I’m writing another column about the alt-right, the reason is simple: Every time I do, people comment to explain why I’m wrong. Those people, some of whom I used to know, are starting to buy what the alt-right is peddling. Some of them are brazen enough to inform me that I, as an active social conservative, should be “smart enough” to realize that “the Jews,” whom they somehow believe to be a homogenous and monolithic group, are responsible for all of the evils Western civilization faces. One of these people even wrote that Richard Spencer had “opened his eyes.”
For those of you who are fortunate enough not to have heard of him, Richard Spencer is the neo-Nazi who runs AltRight.com and has been attempting to hijack the conservative movement by cheerleading Donald Trump while promoting the same weird racial theories that gave rise to the Third Reich. He showed up uninvited at the Conservative Political Action Conference, palled around with Milo Yiannopoulos before Milo’s comments excusing man-boy sexual relationships (which were apparently too much for even him), and recently released a video bemoaning the treatment of The Blaze’s Tomi Lahren, the supposedly courageous commentator who conveniently chose The View to do an about-face on abortion.
In the video, Spencer mused that Lahren might be the alt-right’s “hope,” since many conservatives have turned on her over the abortion issue—and, he couldn’t help but point out, she was blond. Spencer then launched into a monologue on abortion, which should forever silence those conservatives who feel the bizarre temptation to flirt with the alt-right and smash the asinine idea that any compatibility exists between these two ideologies:
"I think that some people who are…in the alt-right want to believe that the anti-abortion crusade is just inherently traditionalist, that it is about making women take responsibility for their children, that it’s going to make women become mothers whether they like it or not…I am a bit sceptical of this view that abortion would have inherently traditionalist consequences."I think when we think about abortion we often think about these careerist women who otherwise would be part of families but are instead having abortion out of pure selfishness and greed. The fact is that it isn’t like that. Those highly intelligent career women will have abortions on occasion, but to be honest they’re using contraception and they’re avoiding pregnancy, is what they’re doing…The people who are having abortions are generally very often black or Hispanic or [people] from very poor circumstances, to be honest."
In case you missed it, Spencer can’t be opposed to abortion in all circumstances because he quite likes the idea that a lot of African Americans and Hispanics are having abortions. This is a common idea on the alt-right—Alymer Fisher wrote a long column warning his fellow alt-righters against succumbing to “the pro-life temptation” for precisely this reason. It’s not families we care about, he warned—it’s white families. Back to Spencer:
" And so the anti-abortion crusade becomes this ‘human rights’ crusade. And if you look at the writing of people like Ramesh Ponnuru (of National Review) it is directly associated with this…that every being that is human has a right to life and so on. Well that’s not how we think as identitarians, to be honest. You are part of a community, you’re part of a family, you’re part of a collective. You do not have some human right, some abstract thing given to you by God or by the world or something like that. You’re part of a community and that’s where you gain your meaning or your rights.
" The anti-abortion crusade is often associated with family, the traditional family, but to be honest it’s descended into not just a human rights dogma but a kind of dysgenic 'we are the world' dogma."
If it weren’t all so grotesque, it might actually be funny that hardcore far-right kids are getting sucked into the alt-right, considering that Spencer’s trash theory simply replaces Marx’s utopian collective with a racial collective. Communists gave us the gulags and fascists gave us the concentration camps, with plenty of overlap. Richard Spencer has handily highlighted one of the most overlooked aspects of alt-right ideology: In their view, you have no rights. Human rights don’t exist. God doesn’t, either, for that matter. (Dysgenic, by the way, refers to promulgating undesirable traits by allowing “lesser specimens” to reproduce, in case you weren’t clear on what Spencer’s opinion of non-white people was.) Spencer goes on:
"The most popular propaganda line for the pro-life movement is about “black genocide,” how this is “destroying black communities” and indeed is a racist plot by Margaret Sanger and so on. This gets to something that I think is a bigger point, and that is that the alt-right or identitarians, we can’t think about these issues in this kind of good or evil binary. We actually have to think about an issue like abortion…in a complicated manner, something that that issue deserves.
" Lothrop Stoddard talked about contraception, not so much abortion but contraception, as a potentially world-changing—for the good—technology, or something that could change the world for the worse. In a way he was absolutely right and I think contraception has to a large degree changed the world for the worse. Intelligent people will engage in family planning because they naturally have long time horizons, they think ahead. They aren’t just going to go run and have sex with someone without a condom and get them pregnant and so on…
"In a way, contraception has been terribly dysgenic in the sense that it is only the smart people that really use it. Smart people are not using abortion as birth control. Smart people are using abortion when you have a situation like Down Syndrome or you have a situation where the health of the mother is at risk. I would say that it is the unintelligent and blacks and Hispanics who use abortion as birth control, as a kind of late-term birth control."
Lothrop Stoddard, in case you were wondering, is a long-dead eugenicist and Klansman who felt that “coloured people” posed a danger to “white civilization,” and is now resurrected so that neo-Nazis like Spencer can fangirl him. When Spencer does have a problem with abortion, as with contraception, it’s only because the wrong people are using it. White people, apparently, are so smart they’re not replacing their own population, which is of great concern to those obsessed with the promulgation of certain pigmentations. Spencer warns that this is doing great harm to the “white race”:
"We need to recognize this potential for both good and evil or good and bad within contraception itself, that this is something that can be a great boon for our people, for our race, or it can be a great detriment. Contraception has been a great detriment because precisely the people who shouldn’t be using it are using it.
"We want smart people to have more children. I sometimes want smart people to be a little more reckless. Don’t plan. Don’t use a condom. What I’m saying basically is the abortion issue is just a much more complicated issue than this kind of 'good or evil' binary that the pro-life movement and the Christian movement want to use. We need to be more adult than they are."
I just want to point out, for the second time, that the alt-right is incompatible with Christianity. You don’t even have to take my word for it, take Spencer’s. He finishes off his little rant with a welcome repudiation of the pro-life movement:
"We should recognize that the pro-life movement—this is not the alt-right, this has nothing in common with identitarians, and I think we should be genuinely suspicious of people who think in terms of human rights and who are interested in adopting African children and bringing them to this country and who get caught up on this issue. We want to be a movement about families, about life in a deep sense, not just “rights” but truly great life, and greatness, and beautiful, flourishing, productive families. We want to be eugenic in the deepest sense of the word. Pro-lifers want to be radically dysgenic, egalitarian, multi-racial human rights thumpers—and they’re not us."
Amen to that—we most certainly are not. Spencer’s little rant is valuable, because it is brutally honest. Those who adopt children of a different race are race traitors. Those who believe in human rights cannot be part of the alt-right because some humans will have to be sacrificed for the good of the white collective. And just as in Nazi Germany, not even all white children will be safe, because the alt-right believes in eugenics—as Spencer mentioned earlier, smart people abort children with Down Syndrome. What Spencer has just described here is basically the Nazi idea of an Aryan super-race. It’s hard to accuse someone of being a Nazi when they own the title so thoroughly.
I hope this reveals, yet again, why conservatives can find no common ground with the alt-right. I hope this explains why I find it so reprehensible and disgusting that commentators like Gavin McInnes are willing to give Richard Spencer a platform—and multiple times, too. Conservatism is going through a time of upheaval, and we have to be extraordinarily vigilant. The alt-right is attempting to infiltrate the mainstream, using people like McInnes, and Milo, and others. If they manage to do it, conservatism is going to need chemotherapy.
Reprinted with permission from The Bridgehead.
Sorry. I have a red line—abortion. Racism is a close second. (Of course, I’m referring to ACTUAL racism.)
Whatever you do, don’t let yourself be taken in by phonies like Spencer who make up stupid names like alt right.
Drop the term, that’s the best idea. Only morons on CNN use it.
If you believe Spencer supports Trump, then you know nothing about Spencer or Trump.
I’ve listened to an interview of Spencer, in the interview he denies Christ.
Wow, so many ignorant and cucky comments to respond to.
By reading the comments on this thread, I see mainstream Conservatism is still just as clueless and feckless as it's ever been.
Mainstream conservatism is pretty much irrelevant now, and will be a curious oddity in American politics in 20 or 30 years.
Conservatives haven't been fighting (and winning against) Antifa the past few months. That's mostly Alt Right and Alt Lite.
I can't remember Conservatives fighting back against Leftist thuggery at any time in my life.
Just one example.
But keep it up. Keep calling the very people actually successfully engaging the Left "Nazis" (just like the Liberals do).
Keep crying and whining that white people shouldn't pursue their interests.
The Alt Right and Alt Lite will continue to grow and win and cucked Conservatives will continue to become more and more irrelevant.
Free Republic is now Cuckservative headquarters.
Sorry. I have a red line—abortion. Racism is a close second.
And that's why Conservatism has lost for decades and will continue to lose.
The main goal of Conservatism now is fighting abortion and proving that "we're not rasicst!"
I fully expect #BlackLivesMatter to have a yearly appearance at CPAC starting about 10 years from now.
Apparently most people on this forum still haven't discovered how to do an internet search yet and are still confused about the "Alt Right."
Here are the 16 Point of the Alt Right from one of it's leading thinkers, Vox Day:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/08/what-alt-right-is.html
1. The Alt Right is of the political right in both the American and the European sense of the term. Socialists are not Alt Right. Progressives are not Alt Right. Liberals are not Alt Right. Communists, Marxists, Marxians, cultural Marxists, and neocons are not Alt Right.
2. The Alt Right is an ALTERNATIVE to the mainstream conservative movement in the USA that is nominally encapsulated by Russel Kirk's 10 Conservative Principles, but in reality has devolved towards progressivism. It is also an alternative to libertarianism.
3. The Alt Right is not a defensive attitude and rejects the concept of noble and principled defeat. It is a forward-thinking philosophy of offense, in every sense of that term. The Alt Right believes in victory through persistence and remaining in harmony with science, reality, cultural tradition, and the lessons of history.
4. The Alt Right believes Western civilization is the pinnacle of human achievement and supports its three foundational pillars: Christianity, the European nations, and the Graeco-Roman legacy.
5. The Alt Right is openly and avowedly nationalist. It supports all nationalisms and the right of all nations to exist, homogeneous and unadulterated by foreign invasion and immigration.
6. The Alt Right is anti-globalist. It opposes all groups who work for globalist ideals or globalist objectives.
7. The Alt Right is anti-equalitarian. It rejects the idea of equality for the same reason it rejects the ideas of unicorns and leprechauns, noting that human equality does not exist in any observable scientific, legal, material, intellectual, sexual, or spiritual form.
8. The Alt Right is scientodific. It presumptively accepts the current conclusions of the scientific method (scientody), while understanding a) these conclusions are liable to future revision, b) that scientistry is susceptible to corruption, and c) that the so-called scientific consensus is not based on scientody, but democracy, and is therefore intrinsically unscientific.
9. The Alt Right believes identity > culture > politics.
10. The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.
11. The Alt Right understands that diversity + proximity = war.
12. The Alt Right doesn't care what you think of it.
13. The Alt Right rejects international free trade and the free movement of peoples that free trade requires. The benefits of intranational free trade is not evidence for the benefits of international free trade.
14. The Alt Right believes we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children.
15. The Alt Right does not believe in the general supremacy of any race, nation, people, or sub-species. Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species has its own unique strengths and weaknesses, and possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers.
16. The Alt Right is a philosophy that values peace among the various nations of the world and opposes wars to impose the values of one nation upon another as well as efforts to exterminate individual nations through war, genocide, immigration, or genetic assimilation.
The Alt Right is a Western ideology that believes in science, history, reality, and the right of a genetic nation to exist and govern itself in its own interests.
Baloney.
Abortion is an atrocity, and as long as it is “legal,” we have no Constitution and our government is a mafia. If you tolerate the exclusion of some people from the human race and protection from homicide, you will eventually find yourself in a gas chamber.
I don’t waste time with “proving” anything about “racism.” But Spencer is an ACTUAL racist. He simply deserves to be a pariah.
I never said he doesn’t support Trump.
I don’t CARE whether he supports Trump or not. He’s pro-abortion. That alone makes him a diabolical sociopath who is not a member of Western Civilization.
Hard right are anti Semite.....were always Nazis and they are pure of motive
Liberal Jews or other progressives always and I mean always say this
They've even tossed it at Trump over and over
Liberal Jews cannot be criticized for what they do except by other Jews and that's another can of worms
Academia and print media is littered with the careers of those who had the temerity to call a spade a spade here
It's about any pet left group
Criticize blacks you're a racist
Homos you're a homophobe
On and on
I have no idea who this’ll guy is
I tell you one thing evangelicals in particular love to virtue signal over anti semitism
Trust me liberal Jews do not detest them any less for it
This is just how it is
Sorry
Aside from black liberation crap and muzzies there is almost no anti semitism anywhere else here anyway
Ok...I'll make a statement
I think Harvey Weinstein and other liberal Jews in Hollywood make movies on purpose that denigrate traditional Christian America and do it repeatedly
I think they influence writers for the message they want and I think their peers in media and academia are not much different
Now does that make me anti Semite despite my affection for Israelis or support of Netanyahu?( I do not see Israelis a some sort of Armageddon good luck charm...they are just good folks in a bad neighborhood)
Who's the real bigot...it's painfully obvious to me that the average liberal Jewish Hollywood mogul detests most of what i believe in
I refuse to be blind and nor will I get distracted over the lefts smears
I don't know anyone who believes the holocaust never happened or Jews deserve to die
But I ain't blind to what I see....
If you ponder being called anti Semite frequently maybe you ought to think about that and learn to quit reacting to how they shut us up thru language ownership....politely suggested....get yourself a pet....a green frog
I volunteer....
Actually I’m mad at her cute dumb ass
I’d think a more conservative view than most American conservatives, like one you ascribe to Bannon, would be better served by the word ultra right. As for alt-right, I believe its association with Spencer puts him outside the pale for anyone not obsessed with race. The article is very good as it exposes Spenser’s views in a way that prove they’re not in anyway compatible with American conservatism.
Rubbish. I bet you’d have sided with the anti-democratic forces in the 1930s for the volk! LOL.
well, bye.
That’s great that you have a red line, but the fact is that Trump would have never gotten to sign the defunding international abortion bill if he weren’t elected (because we know what Hillary would have done). Trump needed both Christians and non-Christians voting for him in order to get elected as it was a close election.
The result of people having a red line and attacking Trump voters that don’t think exactly like them — more dead babies. You may have a red line, but the goal isn’t to make you feel righteous and high and proud of your being pals with Jesus.
The goal is to save babies, and if you have to lie like the Egyptian midwives (who weren’t believers of the God of Israel), or if we need help from non-Christians, I’m willing to get whatever help to save babies — not proclaim some red line while in actuality babies get lost. Comprende? It’s a little difficult if you haven’t finished Christianity 101.
The alt-right, no matter who thinks or offers themselves as part of it, is not a monolithic block of folk all subscribing to the same views on every issue. To take one of them, and attach his view to all of them, merely (a) misses they are not a uniform block and (b) wrongly smears those among them that do no share the views of the person you are opposing.
Take individuals, always, and either appreciate or oppose their views. That is more important than any social or political labels.
alt-right is BS, the same as “far right”.
At any rate, read Spencer’s book ‘Onward Muslim Soldiers’.
I never associated Spencer with Bannon or Milo, and I never assume that anybody the Left says is a racist-bigot-fascist, is one (because that would include me and everyone here.)
What condemns Richard Spencer is not the words of Antifa or BLM, but the words of Richard Spencer.
Find me anyplace where he repudiates the vile pagan racialism and eugenicism which he espouses practically every time he opens his mouth.
“Oft thought but ne’er so well expressed.” Thank you for your comment.
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