Posted on 04/20/2017 6:32:14 AM PDT by markomalley
Talent shortage is acute in the IT and data science ecosystem in India with a survey claiming that 95% of engineers in the country are not fit to take up software development jobs.
According to a study by employability assessment company Aspiring Minds, only 4.77% candidates can write the correct logic for a programme -- a minimum requirement for any programming job.
Over 36,000 engineering students form IT related branches of over 500 colleges took Automata -- a Machine Learning based assessment of software development skills - and over 2/3 could not even write code that compiles.
The study further noted that while more than 60% candidates cannot even write code that compiles, only 1.4% can write functionally correct and efficient code.
(Excerpt) Read more at gadgetsnow.com ...
All the smart ones left........................
And yet they still call you “about your computer”.
Both software and hardware engineers from India who have managed to get a job in the US are also fails
exactly- I’ve made a lucrative career out of fixing software outsourced to cheap labor. At twice the original cost.
They are giving away engineering degrees with 3 cereal box tops there, it seems.
Not that many smart ones in the IS either
They came over here on H1B.
This has shorted India.
95% unfit for Indian and Pakistani H1Bs about corresponds to my observations. Then again, my US born colleagues are about 70% unfit. 20% of us do about of the actual work. 80% do the other half.
Those who overly depended on them will pay the price.
I would like to know the comparable numbers for American programmers. I suspect we are well short of 100% also, although probably much better than India, but I would like to know how big the difference is. I am okay with "functionally correct" but curious how strict their standard is for "efficient" code.
I’ve met only three worth their salt in my entire 33 year career.
All the ones I have met have been good. There is a language barrier sometimes but almost all Indian programmers have grown up in English-only school. They can read and write expertly. We taught them to speak Southern at Wrangler. Slowly and stretch out the words.
“Wheere ya’ll goin’ to luuunch ay-yut?”
“The study further noted that while more than 60% candidates cannot even write code that compiles, only 1.4% can write functionally correct and efficient code. “
But they sure can copy/paste!
Rote learning is not going to get you very far in thinking outside the box, which is where good programming is done.
Also, there is a dearth of good teachers for programming, since most good programmers get jobs in industry at good salaries, the study said.
Rote learning, bad teachers. Garbage in, garbage out. Too bad.
In the U.S., less than 10% of applicants for programming positions can pass even the simplest programming test.
Why Can't Programmers.. Program?
In other words, thus isn't unique to India. It's the nature of the business.
Having recently dealt with professionally some Indian ‘engineers’, sent here by their company to work with us on a cooperative project between our two companies, I can attest to the fact that I had to ‘teach’ some really basic stuff to these ‘engineers’ while they were here.
I felt like I was teaching HS basic electronics to teens.........................
My experience has been that companies contract with the Indian companies on a fixed payment plan, regardless of man-hours worked. Along with the big time difference, they are able to put multiple “engineers” on a problem to fix it, as long as it’s fixed by the time we start here in the U.S. And, since, there is no difference in payment whether one person or 10 worked on the problem, we don’t care, since it’s fixed and the big wigs don’t have to worry about the cost.
I know that the bozo in India that “replaced” me a few years ago was a complete incompetent, chosen (I think) because he knew how to log on to a VM or MVS terminal and could spell the name of the application software we used.
Oh, well, I’m sure my former employer paid about 30% of my total compensation for his services, so they were happy.
Rote learning is the hallmark of India coders. They generally work in barbed wire compounds in large rooms of 50+ sitting side by side packed like sardines just coding their Jawa or whatever.
Hey, leave the inefficient code out there. More work opportunities for my company! Heh heh... :-)
My co-worker's last project had an app his team inherited that was opening and closing a cursor in the PHP code multiple times for no reason. He rewrote the code and upped the efficiency a ridiculous amount.
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