Jackie begs to differ: "That's totally inappropriate. It's It's outrageous, egregious, preposterous!"
Posted on 04/14/2017 10:48:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Jackie begs to differ: "That's totally inappropriate. It's It's outrageous, egregious, preposterous!"
Hopefully the good doctor doesn’t settle for all the free peanuts he can eat!
Since you brought up that case, I’ll have to comment on it. Most coaches said that the Patriots got no advantage from the taping. The issue wasn’t the taping, but the position of the camera. Coach B was heavily fined because he was the GM as well as the coach, and he was explicitly told not to use that particular camera position in writing. He thought he had a loophole and that it was a trivial matter.
keyboard spew alert
Has anyone checked with the Las Vegas odds-makers as to who will end up with the most money in a DAO vs UAL jury trial or DAO vs UAL pre-trial settlement?
We seem to have several FReepers siding in favor of UAL.
Will they also be willing to take UAL’s side in a bet?
what i was saying stores use to have signs saying we can refuse service to anyone.i don’t know about planes
Just for starts, the pilot was completely uninvolved because the aircraft was on the ground. This was all the action of the ground crew.
Both the Federal law under which the airlines operate and the Contract of Carriage are legally binding and do matter.
The airlines and their employees are NOT some kind of sovereign country and free to do just as they please.
That wasn’t really my point, I know why Coach Belechik got fined.
My point was that the Judge ruled that all the NFL was required to do was provide a seat for that fan to watch a game, and that it was clearly honored. Why would there be a different set of rules for the airline industry in regards to paying to use a seat for a particular time?
Obviously, when this gets to court, I doubt they will use this case for precedent, but I brought it up because it is the first one that popped into my mind, and many football fans aware of the outcome.
His assault lawsuit will trump "legal right."
Contract Carriage rules signed by Hague Conventions under ICAO Statues for air flights... read them shitheel... They cannot remove you involuntarily for any reason... with compensation... Dr. Doa was never offered any compensation nor accepted it.
Gate Agents own the passengers till the beacon is turned on and door closed
Gate Agent is going to jail as are the Airport Police....
I know it wasn’t overbooked, and the airlines knows too. the media deliberately and intentionally started broadcasting the lie that it was overbooked and need their a$$es reamed.
Yes, 60% of the people in the world live in Asia...although the term “Asian” may or may not include “Middle Eastern.”
Hey, stupid airline with the stuck caps lock, no sensible passenger will ever buy a ticket in the knowledge they can be forcefully tossed off the plane just because you feel like it.
I don’t gives a rat’s behind what your excuse or “legal right” is. If you can’t manage a transport business any better than that you deserve to go out of business.
It is also more than a little disturbing how some people get off on an authority fetish. Brute force is an ugly thing.
Agreed.
You kidding? Lawsuit would be filed in Cook County (Chicago) with a Cook County jury and he's represented by the best personal injury lawyer in town.
You need to watch his full press conference, he weaves a tale better than George R. R. Martin and had the press enthralled.
He may very well go to trial just to get discovery and disclose it and bet on him getting the airline through the jury.
Would like to see him take enough money for injuries but demand a change in UA’s operating procedures.
"You put the balm on? Who told you to put the balm on? I didn’t tell you to put the balm on. Why’d you put the balm on?"
I agree with you. The flight crew obviously picked this guy out for a beating. He obviously deserves the lawsuit lottery payday you want him to receive. Hopefully someday you can be so lucky.
I don't know what I would have done in that situation. My biggest pet peeve is ignorant authority and I've been a fighter my whole life. I just don't take crap from anybody. I would hope eventually to mellow out but at 57, perhaps not. :-)
I've run through in my head what I might have done in that situation and all scenarios turn out ugly. I guess it depends: would I ever want to fly again?
Is his prior conviction relevant to the merits of his potential claim with United? Sounds a bit Orwellian to me.
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The fact that the flight was not overbooked may seem trivial, or pedantic, but there is very important legal distinction to be made. There may not be a difference in how an airline (typically) responds when it needs additional seats, such as asking for volunteers who wish to give up their seat for a voucher or cash. But there is a legal difference between bumping a passenger in the instance of overselling a flight versus bumping a passenger to give priority to another passenger. Any thoughtful person can see the problem that arises if an airline were allowed to legally remove one fare-paying passenger to allow for another passenger it prefers.
Since the flight was not actually overbooked, but instead only fully booked, with the exact number of passengers as seats available, United Airlines had no legal right to force any passengers to give up their seats to prioritize others. What United did was give preference to their employees over people who had reserved confirmed seats, in violation of 14 CFR 250.2a. Since Dr. Dao was already seated, it was clear that his seat had already been “reserved” and “confirmed” to accommodate him specifically.
A United Airlines spokesperson said that since Dr. Dao refused to give up his seat and leave the plane voluntarily, airline employees “had to” call upon airport security to force him to comply. However, since the flight was not overbooked, United Airlines had no legal right to give his seat to another passenger. In United Airline’s Contract of Service, they list the reasons that a passenger may be refused service, many of which are reasonable, such as “failure to pay” or lacking “proof of identity.” Nowhere in the terms of service does United Airlines claim to have unilateral authority to refuse service to anyone, for any reason (which would be illegal anyway).