Posted on 04/07/2017 9:37:15 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
Edited on 04/08/2017 12:10:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Russia has suspended the memorandum of understanding on flight safety in Syria with the United States amid the US missile strike on Syria
(Excerpt) Read more at dailywesterner.com ...
Evidently Trump thinks Syria is worth a nuclear war with Russia.
“Well, the elites REALLY want that pipeline to go through “
Pipelines are indefensible. They rely on people letting them alone. Likely, that won’t happen and the pipeline, if it ever gets built, will spend very little time piping and a lot of time burning.
One thing to contemplate is that all the nuclear power plants will fail after a nuclear exchange. Just imagine several 100 Fukushimas’ here in the USA. Not good.
“Why was this scenario terrifying under Hillary but not terrifying now?”
Because President Trump does NOT want to go to war with Russia & Hillary did. President is Pro-America & Hillary isn’t.
Also because one surgical strike is not “going to war”. This never-trump narrative is a -1 on the logic scale.
Not what this is about at all.
Then why can’t these people ever get themselves into power somewhere, where they can nuke the world and stop with all the messy subterfuge?
Seems they are not all powerful after all.
Seems like the only one getting nuked here is Jack.
They won’t be able to let you know, we won’t have modern electronics or a power grid.
On the plus side, maybe my kids will get off their iPads.
“OTOH, how many times does the Bear have to poke us before we poke back? It seems to me the Bear has been poking us, Oh I don’t know .. two or three times a year for eight years? ... and now we poked back ... new game.”
Worth repeating.
“Here is hoping we don’t go WWIII.”
WWIII against whom, Russia? A broke nation with less than $1.8 Trillion GDP and half the people against its president??
“In the end, NEITHER country wants a confrontation. “
All this blather about WWIII is nothing but an extension of the extreme left-wing liberals claiming don’t vote for Trump because he’ll get us into WWIII.
“Evidently Trump thinks Syria is worth a nuclear war with Russia. “
Evidently, you don’t think. Only a drama queen idiot thinks this limited strike is worthy of Russia launching nukes.
“Trump: What to do now I can’t repeal Obamacare. I know, let’s start a war with Russia!”
When did a war with Russia start??
thedailywesterner? Who are they. They link to .ru site or themselves for everything.
and almasdarnews linked later in the thread, who are they?
Heard on the news last night that ru was talking about suspending it but hadn’t. Maybe thedailywesterner knows something Fox/Hannity doesn’t?
Walking softly, with a big stick.
Yes I do.
Currently, we have TWO out of ten carriers away from their ports. EIGHT of 14 Boomers are in port.
My point is that the Russian fleet is a paper tiger.
It’s considered a coastal or border fleet.
We have 6 Boomers out at sea. In a month or two, 1-2 or 3 will return and 2-3 will go out, and another month to two, 1-3 more will return.
They rotate around ALL THE TIME.
14 boats, doing 2 or 3 or even 6 tours in a year, depending on the length of tour.
They do about 14 boats x 8 months tour duty, equals 112 months at sea.
The Russians do 5 maybe 6 tours a year.
Maybe get 30-40 tour months a year.
You can’t keep crews adequately trained at that rate.
Despite all the time in port, their navy is slowly falling apart.
Most of their force projection ships are old.
53 out of 168 have been built 1990 or newer.
Their 5 capital ships were built in ‘82, ‘86, ‘89, ‘90, and ‘98. Only one is post USSR.
The Kuznetsov is known (notorious) for engine problems.
Four of 15 destroyers are post USSR
3 of 6 frigates.
19 of 81 corvettes.
Of the 19 corvettes built post USSR, 8 are in the Caspian Sea.
Of their 13 boomers, 3 were built post USSR. 4 are soon to be retired.
(it’s important to note that 3 of the boats were built in ‘13-’14, getting the bulk of the tour time, meaning in actuality, the Russians have 3-4 ready boomers.)
Of the 13 Oscars built, 4 have been retired, 1 sunk, leaving 8, with 3 being modernized, leaving 5 active. Of the 5 active, 2-3 are looking at near retirement.
When one looks at the Russian fleet and sees what they have. How much is newer. How much goes out on tour. How much gets refitted or modernized (OR NOT). You get a real idea of the strength of the Russian military.
I’ve read your posts.
Thanks for the sanity in this sea of “nuclear holocaust”.
Outside of nukes, the Russians have no way of projecting power, outside of small regions.
And what power they do project is very, very limited.
Only a moron would think attacking Assad would not result in a Russian response.
Trump is not a moron but he is acting like one. Here is hoping we don’t go WWIII. Not that I expect it.
You have a completely one sided view.
You said:
"Only a moron would think attacking Assad would not result in a Russian response. "
Here's the reality, Putin would be an even bigger fool to think that attacking the US and the US would not respond.
Trump just showed the world, he's not limp wrist Obama.
The game of the last 8 years suddenly changed.
NO ONE (other than the mooselimbs or norks) is going to fire off any nukes. Things would have to escalate GREATLY to get to that point.
Take nukes completely off the table.
Once you do that, Russia is a paper tiger. It has no position of power to stand on. Only bluster.
russia is a land power and usually wins its wars
We are a sea power and haven’t won a war in over 70 years.
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