Posted on 04/06/2017 7:44:59 PM PDT by bobsunshine
President Trump is anticipated to deliver remarks to the nation tonight:
– The targeted single airfield is Sharyat airbase in NW Syria, near Homs – The alleged source of chemical attack – Approximately 60 missiles fired – Russian military was informed in advance – Congressional Gang-of-Eight was notified in advance –
(SEE ATTACHED RELEASE FROM PENTAGON SPOKESMAN)
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What atrocities?
I’m okay with the exercise on multiple levels:
- The intended target was the alleged chemical weapons near/on an airfield
- The MSM can’t bitch about indifference
- The Hawks can’t bitch about the necessity for action
- The Navy gets to turn inventory, and train
- The Russians were apprised
- The ME was made aware that Trump will indeed strike.
- And Trump now has Military experience.
And I’m not convinced Assad/Syria was responsible for the alleged chemical attack.
He has said repeatedly that the ME is a terrible problem.
So if the Rebels were indeed the ones behind the chemical weapon usage, exactly how did this negatively affect them? Or does it tell them that if they use them and get the world believing that it was Assad, then they got an attack that directly helped them. I would have preferred we got conclusive evidence that it was Assad and not the Rebels. I personally see no good players on either side of what is going on over there. Now had he attacked the Rebels as well then he would have been assured of hitting the people who had used the weapons. BTW, you cannot punish the weapons used.
“you guys are all so sad I don’t even know what to say or where to begin. I thought the intelligence was a lot stronger on this board. I never picked some on Free Republic to defend anybody for any reason to the death.”
Amen. Stupidity abounds.
>> Apparently some countries serve as punching bags...
Maybe... Or perhaps Syria also got what it needed politically. The immediate problem is over.
“You’re very new here. Who is nation building?”
Step one one to nation building is military action in something that is not our business
>> Trump barely got elected and chanced for a second term were tough as it was. He may have sealed his fate as a one termer tonight <<
Oh Noes!
Trump is Doomed! He better resign. Nobody will vote for him. They will vote Obama II.
Trump never wins.
Half termer. Quarter termer. We want Dems now.
OH NOES! LOL!
>> BTW, you cannot punish the weapons used.
Of course, but the hyperbolic idiots parading front-cover images of dead children were marginalized.
An added bonus to this attack is a big thumb in the eye to left-wing wackos and liberal news media claiming President Trump is controlled by Russia. Instead of frothing and screaming on that subject they are just slack-jawed and drooling with bewilderment.
Trump used the purported Syrian gas attack and the world wide PR campaign to force Trump to take action against Syria and sued the PR pressure group to used to mobilize world opinion for an attack against Syria against them.
In doing so - Trump sent his own message.
First off, Trump sent a message to a lot of people in North Korea, Iraq, Turkey, China, Iran, Russia, Afghanistan and a multitude of places that desperately needed to get the message bad behavior produces consequences swiftly and in a big and bad way .
China was a sent a loud and clear message not to f**k with the United States.
The message was sent cheaply and with little downside risk to America as there is little risk of the Syrian missile attack spinning out of control or moving out of Syria.
For their parts, Russia, Syria and Iran just got a big and badly needed attitude adjustment
Last week, Trump took a big risk to reverse American policy when he offered Assad peace and Russia normalized status if they both would work with the United States to bring down Iran in the region.
Russia and Syria rebuffed Trumps overture
Russia is obviously helping arm Iran and helping them to acquire a nuclear weapons and ballistic missile capability.
Both Assad and Putin are facilitating Iranian hegemony in Iraq and rest of the the region.Iranian Revolutionary Guards are propping up Assad and using Syria as a safe haven and staging ground for operations in Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and especially in Lebanon as it takes over the and militarizes the border with missiles and heavy weapons for use against Israel, as well as Iranian infiltration
in the Gaza.
Both Assad and Putin were not very receptive to Trumps overture of leaving Assad in peace in Syria and normalizing Russian relations in exchange for throwing Iran under the bus.
Iran's propping up of Assad does not come for free and much of the price is Syrian aggression against Israel and allowing Iran to use Syria to base of operation for attacks on Israel, both with Syrian, Russian, Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Hezbollah assets.
As the ISIS threat winds down, Iran and Syria have been involved in a major arms build up (especially missiles and anti tank weapons) and weapons deployment in Syria and Lebanon with an ultimate goal of using the weapons to attack Israel.
For it's part, Syria has been engaging with an unusual and alarming amount of saber rattling and demonization against Israel in Syrian media.
This arms buildup and increasing aggressive posture by Syria/Iran has Israel very worried and Israel has actually been taking the risks of carrying out air strikes and raids on the areas in Syria where the Iranian military build up is taking place.
At the same time , Russia is upgrading the Syrian air defense capability with it's newest and most dangerous surface to air missile systems and networks.
In one fell swoop, Trump just sent a very blunt message to potential adversaries around the world to knock off their Obama era BS and straighten up and clean up their collective acts
For Assad and Putin part, I'm sure Trumps generous offer to Syria and Russia will look a whole lot more attractive to them in light of new realities after the cruise missile attacks.
Both Putin and Assad may reconsider their involvement with Iran in light of these new realities on the ground.
Now that Trump has Assad and Putin's attention, Sec of State Tillerson’s negotiations to marginalize Iran and North Korea may proceed in a smoother and more expedited fashion.
Questions about Trumps sympathy and potential for favorable treatment for Russia are now pretty much put to rest.
Trumps cruise missiles were no doubt targeting some of the weapons Syria and Iran were stockpiling for use against Israel, perhaps using intel and coordinates provided by Israel at last weeks meeting with the American Delegation to Israel
This will have the beneficial effect of thinning out the Iranian weapons build up in Syria intended to attack Israel at a time when world public opinion is virtually demanding that Trump punish Assad for the purported gas attack.
The rest of the world is fully aware that the gas attack was not done by Assad, but they are even more aware that Trump is unpredictable and ruthless enough to use a fake story about Assad's WMD attack as cover to inflict some pain to get the attention of incorrigible members of the axis of evil.
Seems Trump killed about a dozen birds with about 50 stones.
Not a bad days work for President Trump, and one full of win.
The problem is Hassad may have ordered an attack on an ISIS Ammo Depot that unbeknownst to him had stockpiled Sarin gas which was blown up causing the atrocity.
If you think that is bad, you should listen to some surviving Vietnam Vets talk about some of the atrocities they witnessed, but chances are they won’t talk about it because they’ve been trying for 50 years to forget it. But you can always read a good history of Dresden.
The best argument I have seen put forward by Freepers is that the President let it be known that his red line will not be crossed or else.
But he and Tillerson did not make the case, they did not convince, they did not persuade. Maybe there wasn’t time to do so. But there’s time now.
We have now an intel community that is pure sh*t for corruption and they are the ones presenting our President the facts on the ground, or are they?
The President needed to reassure us all that the intel he used in making his decision was 100% incontrovertible. He didn’t do this. Let’s see if he does it in the days ahead.
Excellent point. The Tomahawk as a "big stick" has worked when? At this point there is no difference in a hypothetical Clinton or current Trump administration let alone a significant difference than Obama's.
That’s before they are armed with whatever...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)
Anyway, $20 mil or $80 mil.
Any damage to Assad's military is beneficial to ISIS and the other terror groups trying to take control of Syria.
I don't know who is responsible for the gas attack.
It could easily be a false flag operation by any one of a dozen different groups.
Gassing people wouldn't work to Assad's benefit - as we see.
But for his enemies to mount a false flag operation and get the USA to blame Assad would work to their benefit.
I don't trust our own intelligence agencies to be truthful or to even know the truth anymore.
And I wouldn't send 60 missles out solely on the word of the same US intelligence experts and agencies that are stuffed full of Obama/Hillary loyalists who have been undermining President Trump and stabbing him in the back.
There seems to have been a rush to judgement.
I hope President Trump made the decision to attack Assad based on something more than information from those people.
I suspect a lot of the older Freepers who aren’t as tuned in don’t realize how much this has hurt Trump.
Many Freepers are probably not aware that the hardcore of Trump’s support, the people who supported Trump from the beginning of his campaign, who defend Trump in contested online spaces(rather than preach to the conservative choir) and go to protests and rallies are largely Ron Paul supporters. They will be gone now.
I know the oldsters will make some jokes about my posts, but they don’t realize Trump was elected by Paulites and Buchananites who didn’t vote for McCain or Romney and by blue collar Democrats who also oppose neocon foreign policy. Without those people, Trump can’t win reelection and will be in grave danger of impeachment. When the drums start beating in the media to depose Trump, the media savvy young people who have been defending Trump the whole time will be silent now.
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