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Why Aren't Liberal Republicans Being Blamed For RyanCare's Demise?
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 3/31/2017 | Staff

Posted on 03/31/2017 9:47:25 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer

Health Reform: For a week now, the conservative House Freedom Caucus has been taking hits for derailing the Republican effort to repeal and replace ObamaCare. But why are moderate/liberal Republicans who refused to support the bill getting a free pass?

The Freedom Caucus was the most vociferous in its opposition to the American Health Care Act — or at least its criticisms of the bill attracted the most attention.

The Wall Street Journal editorial page blamed the group, calling it the "Freedom-From-Reality Caucus." CNN reported that "its members … are Public Enemy No. 1 on Capitol Hill."

President Trump went so far as to tweet that "The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!"

The truth is that nobody knows for sure who would have voted against the bill — since House Speaker Paul Ryan pulled it from the floor before a vote was cast.

However, IBD examined two lists — compiled by NBC News and Heavy.com — of those who had publicly stated that they were leaning or definite "no" votes on the American Health Care Act. Combining the two lists, it adds up to 44 Republicans who could have cast "no" votes if they'd had the chance.

Of those, only 18 are members of the Freedom Caucus.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; acha; freedomcaucus; obamacare; speakerryan
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To: IBD editorial writer

When so called conservatives voted to keep lying Ryan speaker they sold out!!!


41 posted on 03/31/2017 10:16:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Hostage

“A lot of Freepers have latched onto a notion that President Trump attacked the FG and therefore he attacked conservatives.”

That’s because the notion is true.


42 posted on 03/31/2017 10:17:40 AM PDT by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: IBD editorial writer

I think it was Koch’s interference that turned this into a little war. He was paying his minions to go against the bill, which Ryan put together in secret as a fait accompli— this is very complicated chess. But Meadows we should have stayed far away from Koch.


43 posted on 03/31/2017 10:17:59 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Never thought I’d see the day that Free Republic would become the cheering section for RINOs

I don't know if I would go so far as to say they have become the cheering section for RINOs. I think they are just so desperate to "win", that they don't care what carnage is left in the wake.

I compare them to Kyle Busch. Kyle Busch would wreck his own grandmother's hearse in order to be the first one at her funeral.

44 posted on 03/31/2017 10:19:03 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: TheStickman

You do realize that Mo Brooks is part of the HFC.

Mo Brooks has called this as he sees it, which was “Obamacare 2.0”. Even when amendments were added, he said that it made the bill “less bad”, but he was still opposed to it. And that is why I, and many others in his district, voted for him: to repeal it, not to keep it going.


45 posted on 03/31/2017 10:19:17 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“Never thought I’d see the day that Free Republic would become the cheering section for RINOs.”

I never thought I’d see the day when the GOP would have control of all the branches of gov’t and STILL can’t get anything GOOD for the nation accomplished. I’m sick of ALL of them. FC, GOPe, 99% of them are only out for THEIR interest NOT the interest of the nation. FC is supposed to be “conservative” but they can’t get a bill out of committee??? What GOOD are they then?

For all the “principals” being bandied about Obamacare is STILL the law of the land & we are no closer to removing it than the day it was signed into law. But hey, we got “principals”.


46 posted on 03/31/2017 10:20:36 AM PDT by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by unicorns.)
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To: Texas Eagle
Kyle Busch would wreck his own grandmother's hearse in order to be the first one at her funeral.

Off-topic, but that sounds a lot like how Dale Earnhardt, Sr. raced.

47 posted on 03/31/2017 10:20:59 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Texas Eagle

All those except Tax Cuts are within the power of the POTUS and the crime inc-that being the CONgress, have very little to do with it. The Keystone just needed to be signed and Trump did that.

I will bet ANYONE here a beer on this site, that Trumps Tax Reform will never pass, Nor will immigration matters, or any other agenda Trump ran on.

Oh but they can investigate out and out lies cant they?


48 posted on 03/31/2017 10:22:16 AM PDT by crz
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To: kosciusko51

Whoppee for Mo Brooks. Hope he is coronated king of the hill one day. Can he get a DAMN BILL OUT OF COMMITTEE onto the floor for a vote???? If he can, why hasn’t he yet? If he can’t WHAT GOOD ARE HIS PRINCIPALS????


49 posted on 03/31/2017 10:25:19 AM PDT by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by unicorns.)
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To: TBP
Because it doesn’t fit the narrative. We must blame the conservatives for doing such a horrible, unthinkable thing: defending liberty and standing on principles.

Bingo!

I said it years ago, and I'll say it again..... It's 1930s Germany all over again, except that Conservatives are the new Jews.

Of course, when I originally said it, I was of the belief that only democrats were anti-conservative in nature. That sentiment has apparently expanded quite a bit since then.

50 posted on 03/31/2017 10:26:23 AM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: TheStickman

Well, hell, at least he is trying, and not compromising who he is. That’s a hell of a lot more than I can say about most republicans, and many here recently on FR.


51 posted on 03/31/2017 10:27:17 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: crz
Fair point.

Pick another agenda item, then.

What other goal of President Trump's does The House Freedom Caucus stand in the way of?

52 posted on 03/31/2017 10:29:03 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Mamzelle

I agree with your assessment, I think the FC is pimping for big business, and Ryan is pimping for big insurance, neither group is representing the American people. People here are just choosing sides, and it doesn’t matter,because neither one of them is representing them.


53 posted on 03/31/2017 10:29:46 AM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Please pay better attention.

I’m saying there’s no practical difference between Ryan and the “freedom” caucus.


54 posted on 03/31/2017 10:30:45 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: kosciusko51

“Well, hell, at least he is trying, and not compromising who he is. That’s a hell of a lot more than I can say about most republicans, and many here recently on FR.”

Which CHANGES NOTHING!!!! Obamacare remains the law of the land. Screw trying, I require SUCCESS.


55 posted on 03/31/2017 10:31:02 AM PDT by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by unicorns.)
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To: TheStickman
“Never thought I’d see the day that Free Republic would become the cheering section for RINOs.”

I never thought I’d see the day when the GOP would have control of all the branches of gov’t and STILL can’t get anything GOOD for the nation accomplished. I’m sick of ALL of them. FC, GOPe, 99% of them are only out for THEIR interest NOT the interest of the nation. FC is supposed to be “conservative” but they can’t get a bill out of committee??? What GOOD are they then?

For all the “principals” being bandied about Obamacare is STILL the law of the land & we are no closer to removing it than the day it was signed into law. But hey, we got “principals”.

 

Just because Trump was elected, were we expecting The Stupid Party to suddenly do a 180 and start governing in a mature sable and cohesive manner?

Folks, let's see the big picture: The Uni Party lives on as it always has. So much for draining the swamp.

/bitter resignation

56 posted on 03/31/2017 10:32:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: TheStickman

And how has selling out your principals caused that success?


57 posted on 03/31/2017 10:32:52 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: IBD editorial writer
Why Aren't Liberal Republicans Being Blamed For RyanCare's Demise?

1) Because blaming the HFC & selling the idea of a GOP Civil War sells more papers & gets better ratings.

2) Because people who ordinarily consider themselves "conservative" but want to preserve socialized health care let the MSM get away with #1.

58 posted on 03/31/2017 10:33:10 AM PDT by gdani
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To: IBD editorial writer
However, IBD examined two lists — compiled by NBC News and Heavy.com — of those who had publicly stated that they were leaning or definite "no" votes on the American Health Care Act. Combining the two lists, it adds up to 44 Republicans who could have cast "no" votes if they'd had the chance.

Of those, only 18 are members of the Freedom Caucus.

 

Interesting. I had seen numbers that there were closer to 100 Repubs who would vote No.

Anyway - this we know is the reason why Ryan pulled the vote twice last week. And how convenient it was for Trump and the RINO's to blame the HFC.

 

59 posted on 03/31/2017 10:36:10 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: reasonisfaith

And you need a laxative, you full of _____


60 posted on 03/31/2017 10:36:29 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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