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White House looks past conservatives on tax reform - to Democrats
Reuters ^ | March 26th, 2017 | By Lindsay Dunsmuir and Doina Chiacu

Posted on 03/26/2017 1:11:20 PM PDT by Mariner

Fresh off a defeat on U.S. healthcare legislation, the White House warned rebellious conservative lawmakers that they should get behind President Donald Trump's agenda or he may bypass them on future legislative fights, including tax reform.

The threat by White House chief of staff Reince Priebus to build a broad coalition on tax reform that could include moderate Democrats came as the Republican head of the tax-writing committee in the House of Representatives said he hoped to move a tax bill through his panel this spring.

House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Kevin Brady said his committee had been working on tax reform in parallel with the failed healthcare reform push.

"We've never stopped working," Brady told Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo." "We will continue to make improvements."

Brady said the committee plans to move on the bill in the spring. He said he wanted the House blueprint to be the basis for Trump's tax reform plan rather than have competing versions from Treasury and the White House.

Both Trump and Priebus have scolded hardline conservatives who rejected legislation backed by the White House to overhaul Obamacare.

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Priebus held out the possibility of working with moderate Democrats as well as Republicans to pass other aspects of Trump's agenda, such as his proposed budget, the revamp of the tax code and a renewed effort at healthcare reform.

"If we can come up with a bill that accomplishes the goals of the president with Republicans alone, we'll take it and we'll move forward with it," Priebus said.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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To: All
FYI, here is Trump's healthcare plan released in March of 2016.

Link

241 posted on 03/26/2017 6:20:03 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Alberta's Child

The Freedom Caucus has been very vocal in thier opposition They are 30 votes. To the best of my knowledge they offered no solutions. They had 8 years to fix this. Instead they grandstanded. We gave them the majority and they screwed us again. Wait until Obamacare premiums increase 75%. These dummies are dead men walking.

The good news is once they get thier collected butts thrown out and the Dems take over the house, they will have the same crap insurance as the rest of us.


242 posted on 03/26/2017 7:10:26 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: FreeReign
Thank you.

I voted for Donald J. Trump because I could stand behind everything you've posted there -- even if I didn't agree with it 100%.

The AHCA that President Trump ended up supporting had almost nothing in common with those seven items ... which is probably why they were removed from his website.

I don't reflexively support the Freedom Caucus, but on this one they were absolutely right to stand their ground. If anyone did any "backstabbing" here, who was it?

243 posted on 03/26/2017 7:17:58 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: PJammers
The "moderate" Tuesday Group (I consider many of them outright Marxists) also had a lot of members oppose the AHCA. Where is the outrage against them?

The Freedom Caucus members are unlikely to lose their seats. Any losses for the GOP in 2018 are likely to come from the Tuesday Group.

244 posted on 03/26/2017 7:20:11 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Alberta's Child

I was discussing this with my father in law over breakfast.

We decided that if you gave Trump a 20 question quiz on what was in this beautiful bill, he may have gotten 4 correct.

This is the danger of electing a “businessman” in general and THIS businessman in particular. He’s used to saying to his legal team, “Clear up the title issues on that lot by April 1” and his operations team “We go live on April 15” and his PR team, “Let me do the PR because that’s what I’m best at....” And in real estate, he could wing it if he had to.

The president can’t just give orders to different silos and expect everyone to do what he says.


245 posted on 03/26/2017 7:24:21 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: Alberta's Child
The AHCA that President Trump ended up supporting had almost nothing in common with those seven items ... which is probably why they were removed from his website.

Yup, I couldn't find this punch list at his website. I had to look elsewhere. Hmmm.

246 posted on 03/26/2017 7:26:06 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Angels27

Trump is not going to lose the coalition that elected him.

However, the issue is that coalition didn’t elect anyone else. Paul Ryan could probably pee on Trump and still get 55 percent in his district. If Trump gave a national address demanding that Ryan stepped down, Ryan would probably remain Speaker.

The people talking about “Cantorizing” Ryan don’t seem to get that the ones who did the Cantorizing is the Freedoman Caucus.

We need to start thinking of Trump as an independent with Republican fiscal leanings more than a Republican. It will make things easier.


247 posted on 03/26/2017 7:29:37 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: PJammers

See Post #241. Why would you criticize the Freedom Caucus for demanding a House bill that had at least 10% of what was listed in the health care plan Donald Trump himself proposed as a candidate in 2016?


248 posted on 03/26/2017 7:35:06 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Mariner

I’ve supported Donald Trump since he got in the race, and I have defended him and continue to defend him. And there are a LOT of parties out there on both sides that would love to discredit Trump with his base, and I don’t want to give them fodder.

But *IF* this is true and Trump plans to work with Democrats over the Freedom Caucus (which somehow finally managed to find its balls for almost the very first time last week [remember, they all voted for Paul Ryan as Speaker previously] ), then I am going to start questioning this Trump administration seriously.

I’m not saying this is true and taking the bait until I’ve had a chance to fully understand the role of Preibus in the White House. However, this has the feeling of something very bad.

I really hope Trump would attempt again to reach out to Conservatives, who’s concerns about the bill were ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED.

If Trump really plans to work with Democrats over the objection of conservatives, 1.) its not going to work, and 2.) Trump might be surprised to realize how much of his grass roots support comes from Conservatives who are bucking their intelligensia counterparts in the elite to support him.

Now granted, it took a lot of time for the Freedom Caucus to finally find its balls, but it has it seems, and Trump should be using that instead of becoming Establishmentized himself. Ok that’s it. Flame away.


249 posted on 03/26/2017 7:37:06 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: Alcibiades

Agreed—we’re the ones who beought Trump to the dance—but he and his liberal Democrat “senior advisor” children don’t want to dance with us. I swear Ivanka is deluded onto thinking she could be elected as a Demicrat president—if only her daddy will enact enough Democrat policies for her!


250 posted on 03/26/2017 7:40:52 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: House Atreides
Marx was a free trader and a progressive.

This is MSM propaganda trying to link tax legislation to health care legislation which are totally different beasts. Don't fall for it.

251 posted on 03/26/2017 7:45:33 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: wiseprince

Decreasing income tax rates increases government revenues.


252 posted on 03/26/2017 7:48:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Artcore

Define Conservative.


253 posted on 03/26/2017 7:51:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Define Conservative.

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A person who campaigned to repeal Obamacare (And not in phases!).


254 posted on 03/26/2017 8:02:30 PM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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To: DoughtyOne

On this issue, Trump never even pretended to be on the conservative side. He even openly blasted conservatives from the campaign podium. I don’t disagree with your assessment of the bill that was put forward, but your pretending President Trump’s own fingerprints weren’t all over it is absurd. If anything he was forced partially to the right on this...he proclaimed that it was government’s job to “take of everybody” and conservatives were just going to have get used to it. Those words came straight out of his mouth...so why act surprised and put all of the blame on Ryan like the President was hoodwinked? And President Trump is the one openly blasting conservative members of Congress and conservative organizations for not supporting the bill. You don’t even acknowledge this as part of the equation for how people are reacting.

As you know I’ve never been a big Trump fan - but - if he continues to appoint conservative judges, and so far he has, he will have kept enough of his promises. But this issue is one of the big reasons I was against him in the primary...saying it was the government’s job to take care of everybody and blasting conservatives “We’ve got to take care of everybody - get used to it, conservatives!” was not exactly a line indicating he is in line with conservative ideology and not a line making me inclined to support him - if he’s openly going to attack conservatives and what they stand for that is not appealing. However, his supporters in the crowd cheered the line.


255 posted on 03/26/2017 8:08:15 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Alberta's Child

First off, did you read the bill or are you quoting figures you found in the main stream press? The very press that lies to you daily. Secondly, this bill is to repair Obamacare for 2017. It only requires 51 votes in the Senate. Regulations could be changed through executive action. Effectively, Obamacare would be dead. Phase 3 would have been repeal of the remaining law.

But, now we are stuck with Obamacare because some never yes “Conservatives” could see past thier ideology. My rep included. Now he will likely be gone and some tree hugging lib will take his place. I hope the self inflicted wound he recieved doesn’t hurt to much when he has to pay his premiums.


256 posted on 03/26/2017 8:11:11 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Artcore

A person who campaigned to repeal Obamacare (And not in phases!).
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Only way to do it is in phases. This is the problem with many, they simply are asking for the impossible from Trump. He has the MSM, Dems, Deep State, Globalists, all after him. And it’s the FC who did him dirty at the msot critical time


257 posted on 03/26/2017 8:15:34 PM PDT by BruinX66
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To: RightInTheMain
You're not "moving ahead" if you're accepting the idea the government is supposed to be involved in healthcare.

Yes, trump lost the popular vote; guess what? The Republicans did NOT. Republicans outpolled Trump in every district and in every statewide election that Trump won. They also won districts that Trump did not win.

Chew on that for a second.

The claim that Trump did the best that any Republican could have done is one that I simply don't accept; not because it is or isn't true, but because we have no way of knowing that. It is a theory pinned to no experimental evidence whatsoever. Trump was the guy we ran with. He won. That's all we know. I voted for him. But I'm not going to blindly support him, and the FC shouldn't have either.

As for "getting $hit done." If it's $hit, I don't want it to be done. It's pretty simple, really. This isn't a basketball game. Being a "winner" means nothing if you're "winning" by doing the things Democrats want to do. Trump may think getting any bill means he'd have "won" but he isn't just Donald Trump anymore. He's now a man who took an oath to support, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. And any time a President signs a bill that violates that oath, he hasn't "won." I don't care how "pragmatic" or "non-ideological" you are.

258 posted on 03/26/2017 8:15:38 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: BruinX66

Only way to do it is in phases. This is the problem with many, they simply are asking for the impossible from Trump. He has the MSM, Dems, Deep State, Globalists, all after him. And it’s the FC who did him dirty at the msot critical time

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Two points:

1) Trump never once mentioned “phases” and you know it! As I recall, he was saying “on day one...”

2) The only people who did him dirty were Paul Ryan and the rest of the GOPe moderates!

Absolutely pathetic you had NO condemnation for Ryan, but rather the FC. It appears Trump is beginning to do us dirty!

Trump had a big mouth during the campaign...nobody told him to beat the REPEAL drum at EVERY RALLY!


259 posted on 03/26/2017 8:21:14 PM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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To: central_va

If that were true I’d be happy to do it. That is probably not true though. More Jobs, better paying jobs could easily equate to more tax revenue


260 posted on 03/26/2017 8:22:29 PM PDT by wiseprince
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