This is increasingly becoming the majority opinion among many, especially the millennials.
Posted on 03/26/2017 4:47:07 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Mar 26th, 2017
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi; Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio; White House chief of staff Reince Priebus.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.; Gov. Jerry Brown, D-Calif.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Reps. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Trey Gowdy, R-S.C.; Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ariz.; George Shultz, former secretary of state.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C.; Scott Pruitt, head of the Environmental Protection Agency; Roger Stone, former Trump campaign adviser.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.; Gov. John Kasich, R-Ohio; Reps. Debbie Dingell, D-Mich., and Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y.
The dirty little secret is if Ryan accepted some of the FC true reforms the GOPe was not voting for it. In reality the GOPe are the ones who blew it up by wanting to keep the major portions of Obamacare.
Truth be known Mulvaney did an excellnt job against a biased POS F.Chuck,he couldn’t have done much better.
I believe I read somewhere or heard McConnell say tax reform would not happen this year. Trump shot back with “yes it will”. We shall see.
It is kind of surprising Marble Mouth didn’t offer Chuck the Schmuck co-leadership of the Senate.
Excellent summary and advice. Was waiting to see your take on this latest “ kabuki theater”
If he had really wanted to get rid of zerocare he would have made the rounds to almost everyone on both sides of the aisle and in Both Houses, and started with the President. He would have created a much simpler bill.
There's plenty of blame to go around, but RYNO deserves the bulk of it, for the reasons you indicated. He also should have allowed floor amendments.
HB1628 is not actually dead, it is tabled (postponed).
I don't know how likely this is, but I believe the majority could bring this back AND save face by "reconsidering their actions" and opening it back up for debate and amendments from the HFC. Jordan should stand up on the floor and demand it.
The President could state that he WILL NOT sign any bill that does not reverse the premium escalation, and Make Insurance Great Again.
(by keeping government THE HELL out of "healthcare")
Unless, of course, the democrat end game is to see that Obamacare fails, go on a fever pitch blaming Republicans and Trump, using their media wing to besiege the low information voters with this, and hope to put Pelosi back in charge of 2018.
We need to be ready for just this thing, and have our own counterpunches and bills ready to give and pass.
Honestly, the whole thing is confusing to me. I’m very much against new entitlements because it seems NO ONE ever has the political balls to do away with them once people get them.
The crying and sobbing on TV is just too good a theater for the drivebys to pass up, AND it plays to their political side.
The best thing we can do is fix it. Yes repeal all of it and put common sense fixes in place but don’t call it repeal, but FIXED.
We owe a debt of gratitude to those brave people at the NYPD for saying what they will do and then doing what they said.
This DRIP...DRIP...DRIP nonsense has been going on far too long. The election is over. The inauguration is over. There is no longer any reason to withhold this info.......if it even *DOES* exist. You are getting shined.
RG, I'm an old Fun City boy... from LaGuardia to Bloomberg. The only thing I blame you for is your innordinate faith in the NYPD to do the right thing. Their track record does not support that kind of allegiance.
Should my assessment of this prove wrong, I will be MORE than happy to admit it. But for now, neither humble pie nor crow is on my menu.
The political elite want America to become a single option health care country. That single option would be Medicaid.
Everybody would be born with an automatic medicaid account. THIS entity would be available for all health care, including pre-existing conditions.
There. One huge factor out of the way.
The private health care companies get involved much like they do with Medicare. They will offer medigap policies that will pay for deductibles and co-pays.
Of course soon after the political elite get it this way, deductibles and co-pays will soar, much like they are now.
But boom, there’s no fighting over pre-existing conditions and as for medigap plans….citizens can then choose those health care plans they want and/or need.
Yes.
I believe that is the plan. Maybe it isn’t all fleshed and solid in the minds of our elected masters but they are our bosses, they own our lives.
Soon to have complete control of our health.
Nice summary and thinking Pat. There’s some real smell about this and I think you found it.
Exactly that's where we should be starting.
Actually, I think defunding-Obamacare was the right place to start, and that's exactly what they should have called it.
There was too much other crap in this bill that I didn't like. Just defund it, and then open up the House floodgates.
True!
You don't keep "community rating" and "guaranteed issue".
Idiots!
The problem in this scenario though is REPORTERS HAD TO INFORM THE PRESIDENT that the vote was cancelled. Yes President Trump was at a meeting and reporters were there, and he tried to excuse himself to make more phone calls to Congressmen, but the reporters were the first to inform him that Paul Ryan had cancelled the vote.
the abvoe from LC
Thanks Rod & LC. That’s why I read FR to get scoop you won’t hear anywhere else. Maybe Rush will “ unveil it” on Monday, but we know its been found by one of our own.
In any case , this would be the “ suicide move” by Paul Ryan, as clearly The Donald wanted a record of No’s so he would know who to trust going forward.
He doesn’t play “ small ball” like our elected reps, and the sooner Paul “ I couldn’t outdebate Ole Joe” is gone the better
This is increasingly becoming the majority opinion among many, especially the millennials.
Agree. That is the direction we are heading. The majority of the public supports these big government programs like Medicare, SS, Medicaid, etc. And an aging population that will double the number over 65 years in the next 15 years will just add to this support.
Well Trump went after conservative house members with a Tweet this am. We didn’t have to wait for Wallace.
Many of Trump’s voters are independents and moderate Dems, especially white blue collar workers.
He sure comes off that way.
POTUS hitched his first legislative wagon to the wrong person. Freedom Caucus has been MUCH more supportive of ALL of Trump’s agenda than Ryan or Pelosi has.
For you to suggest supporting Freedom Caucus is supporting Pelosi, and that the FC stands with Pelosi, when you know darn well THEY are the ones who’ve fought for conservative issues (like ridding House of 0bola BFF Weeper Boehner and standing up to IRS targeting conservative groups) - UNLIKE LYIN RYAN - is down right despicable.
3D chess with that tweet or 3D mess?
From REDSTATE - at times this site is a "bit" over the top when it comes to treating the Donald fairly Now, a replica bill has sat unaddressed in committee since March 8th and there’s a path to getting it to a floor vote quickly.
Since the AHCA was presented and recognized for the dud it was, there has been an incredulity that after seven years of doggedly campaigning against Obamacare, Republicans weren’t unified and ready with a bill to repeal it.
So, now what? That’s what many in the Republican caucus and outside interest groups are asking following Friday’s events.
Many have astutely pointed out that Congress passed a repeal bill in 2015, so why aren’t they simply doing the same now?
Alas, unknown to many, a replica of the 2015 bill was introduced by Rep. Jim Jordan on March 8th, just two days after the disastrous AHCA. The bill Rep. Jordan introduced earlier this month is a replica of the 2015 bill that passed in the House and Senate less than two years ago.
The bill has been languishing in committee ever since. However, there is one way it could move to consideration on the floor should an ambitious representative choose to take it on.
After a bill has been in committee for a certain period of time, a discharge petition can be circulated, which is privileged, to bring a bill out of committee and to the floor.
But it must have a majority of the House.
Repeal is the one thing a majority ostensibly agree upon.
Conservatives and the House Freedom Caucus took early blame for the AHCA’s passage or failure, even though moderates and the Tuesday Group became august denouncers of the bill as negotiations progressed. However, the HFC was asking for nothing less than what had passed in 2015.
Conservatives expect nothing less than congressional Republicans to live up to their promises, Jason Pye of FreedomWorks told RedState.
They passed this bill in the 114th Congress.
Why can’t they do it now? This is the one aspect of this we all agree on, and it’s certainly a better option than the half-baked bill that leadership rolled out that didn’t really repeal ObamaCare.”
But what about after repeal, one might ask. [H.R. 1436] gives us two years to work on a replacement that is grounded in real patient-centered, free market principles, Pye stated.
What a sensible and prudent, but apparently novel, idea.
A clean repeal is what Republicans have been promising the American people for seven years. A clean repeal bill is sitting in committee, ready to go through the same process it breezed through in 2015 but in which the AHCA failed. As has been said before here, should Republicans fail to adequately reduce the cost of health care and increase access by repealing and replacing to a degree Obamacare, they will be seen as the biggest scammers in American politics for a generation.
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