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To: EQAndyBuzz

Medication pricing is not a one sided affair.

Pharmaceutical firms pay out massive sums to develop products that can be used.

They may research 200 items before they find one that seems to work. Trials start and the item may or may not fly. Then it’s on to hundreds more.

While I defend the pharmaceutical companies on the one hand, it’s also hard for me to understand why they charge far less for the same medications outside our nation. Don’t the sales figures in those other nations also contribute to R&D?

What some folks don’t think about, is that some of the newer tablets are priced to compare to the surgical procedure or other factors that no longer have to be utilized. An expensive surgery that used to cost $10k, is now replaced by a tablet that costs $8.00 each.

Sound terrible until you realize it saves a lot of money, even thought it seems to cost a lot for the tablet.

As for bringing drugs to market faster, that really is a two edged sword.

I can think of three different medications that came to market after having passed testing.

One was years ago and caused birth defects in children. Two of the other had serious side effects that didn’t surface until after the product had been on the market for a while. It had also been on the market in Europe for some time. Even after it came to the U.S. later, at first they didn’t know of the problem. Then it had to be withdrawn from the market.

Another medication caused heart problems, even after testing.

Lessen the time for testing and you’ll have more of these. That’s the trade off.

Where I think there is the most clear cut case to test medications on humans, is when the prognosis is a terminal outcome in short order.

If a possible helpful medication for cancer is being considered, and there are people in danger of dying in less than a year without it, then it would seem to be a good idea to let them choose to try it if they want.

I appreciate your suggestions. I do wish we could bring things to market faster, but it isn’t a real easy thing to do IMO.

In each of these instances, there are competing interests that go beyond simple price or availability.


118 posted on 03/12/2017 7:49:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne

One way we can drive wedges into socialized medicine is by bringing up examples of ...

GROSSLY SELF-INFLICTED HEALTH PROBLEMS.

I mentioned someone who eats his way to 700 pounds or the guy that deliberately chops off his leg for disability.

Here’s another:

A creep who shoots at a police officer and suffers from a crippling wound. The guy had shot at law enforcement — why should the government pay one penny to treat him after he’s found guilty? Let private charities help the creep out. By shooting at cop he might as well have shot himself.


143 posted on 03/13/2017 6:06:20 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Progressive Trickle Up policy: reward cronies, punish everyone else. 'Stimulus' shell game.)
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To: DoughtyOne

You provide very interesting perspectives on this thread, D1.

I keep envisioning where we would be without lawyers in the mix. In that case, neighborhood GPs could take care of their neighbors, in many cases, like in the old days. They could dispense medicines according to practical considerations including costs, and, of course, THE PLACEBO EFFECT IS REAL ... meaning that a lot of medicine is the personal trust and involvement.

Or at least that used to be the case.

I think we must all understand here, that as long as the government is involved, costs will continue to expand to soak up every dollar and more, no matter what the taxpayers provide.

Socialism is a bottomless pit.


168 posted on 03/14/2017 9:09:48 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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