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To: TigerClaws
He’d be a citizen but not a ‘natural born citizen’ - two different things.

It is possible that Obama is NOT a US citizen at all. His mother ceded his US citizenship so that he could go to school in Indonesia and also so he could be adopted by Lola Soetero. Indonesia DOES NOT permit dual citizenship. He was a citizen of Indonesia when he went to school there. There's no record of Obama ever reclaiming his US Citizenship by naturalization when he returned the US. He had a window opportunity to do that after he turned 18, and he did not. He also used some passport not a US passport when he visited Pakistan when he was 22 years old, after the window expired to reclaim his US citizenship. US citizens were prohibited from visiting Pakistan at that time. What passport did Barry use? Oops.

106 posted on 03/09/2017 2:36:38 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Lola = Lolo

Damn auto correction


108 posted on 03/09/2017 2:42:17 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
It is possible that Obama is NOT a US citizen at all. His mother ceded his US citizenship so that he could go to school in Indonesia and also so he could be adopted by Lola Soetero.

US law is explicit that a parent cannot renounce a minor child's US citizenship.

He also used some passport not a US passport when he visited Pakistan when he was 22 years old, after the window expired to reclaim his US citizenship. US citizens were prohibited from visiting Pakistan at that time. What passport did Barry use? Oops.

Utter nonsense. What there was was a State Department Travel Advisory regarding Pakistan, and what that advisory said was that you couldn't get a visa into Pakistan from India by walking up to the border crossing at Wagha, so you'd better have your visa already in hand if you're trying to cross there.

Here's a New York Times Travel Section article on visiting Pakistan from 1981, the same year Obama went. From the article:

Tourists can obtain a free, 30-day visa (necessary for Americans) at border crossings and airports. Transportation within Lahore is plentiful, with taxis, scooter rickshaws and horse-drawn tongas (especially in the old city) readily available. Insist that taxis and scooter rickshaws use their meters to determine fares, however. Fares for longer journeys (for example, to the Shalimar Gardens) may have to be negotiated; ask the hotel staff for help.
Not only was travel allowed, it was encouraged, and US relations with Pakistan were very friendly. President Reagan was selling President Zia large amounts of weapons and at a reception for Zia in Washington in 1982, said:
Our relationship is deep and long-standing. It stretches back to Pakistan’s first days of independence. It stretches forward as far as we can see. It’s based on mutual interest, yes, but also on shared visions and goals in the world around us. It is based, as well, on the fact that the people of both our countries sincerely value the good relations and the affinity between us.

Our people already work together in significant ways through educational exchanges, tourism, economic cooperation, and through bonds of family and friendship. We have cooperative programs in science and technology and in agriculture, and we hope to explore with the Government of Pakistan various ways of enhancing cooperation.

(Bold mine)

117 posted on 03/09/2017 3:35:01 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Swordmaker; SatinDoll; GregNH

Nancy Pelosi paid Eni Faleomavaega, an American Samoan, $200,000 to search Indonesia, then purchase and destroy all documents and photos of the person known as Barack Obama.


121 posted on 03/09/2017 3:47:43 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Swordmaker
US citizens were prohibited from visiting Pakistan at that time. What passport did Barry use?

I don't care what passport Obama used when he went to Pakistan. I want to know what passport he used (if any) when he returned to the United States as an unaccompanied child from Indonesia.

ML/NJ

126 posted on 03/09/2017 4:12:01 PM PST by ml/nj
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